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Old 08-24-2012, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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while eating lunch today, I heard a couple of 70 something seniors complaining about "that socialist O-bama" and even tried to link that Texas A & M killer with the "evil one." Now, I know that these four older white southerners didn't have any intention of voting for Obama or any Dem presidential candidate for that matter. But what upset me was how one of the old men was complaining about how Obama is saddling his grandchildren with debt. Yet, I didn't hear him volunteer to pay more for his Medicare benefits as per the Ryan plan, yet he's Ok with the younger folk paying payroll taxes to support the program and receive less benefits. What ever happened to "shared sacrifice?"
It's a fact that our bloated defense budget in real dollars is twice than that of the Eisenhower admin, which was engaged in a brutal Cold War with the russians. Before the gov't cuts the social benefits that we are forced to pay for, the gov't needs to not spare the defense budget for reduction, not even think of eliminating capital gains tax and come clean on what type of deductions that they wish to eliminate from federal income taxes.
Why does your title referencing the "Over 55 crowd" as "seniors?"

Those of us around 55 still have 12 years of dollar devaluation, stolen pensions and over-feed retirement funds, ever-moving Social Security retirement age, the bankruptcy of all the social programs our predecessors live on, housing asset losses, wage decreases, and increasing cost of living to get through--not to mention the government's need for more and more money to deal with endless promises and infinite debt.

So yes, currently RETIRED people (especially those with pensions) should stop being so selfish.

But the 55-year olds are the PAYING class, not the RECEIVING class. Big difference.
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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while eating lunch today, I heard a couple of 70 something seniors complaining about "that socialist O-bama" and even tried to link that Texas A & M killer with the "evil one." Now, I know that these four older white southerners didn't have any intention of voting for Obama or any Dem presidential candidate for that matter. But what upset me was how one of the old men was complaining about how Obama is saddling his grandchildren with debt. Yet, I didn't hear him volunteer to pay more for his Medicare benefits as per the Ryan plan, yet he's Ok with the younger folk paying payroll taxes to support the program and receive less benefits. What ever happened to "shared sacrifice?"
It's a fact that our bloated defense budget in real dollars is twice than that of the Eisenhower admin, which was engaged in a brutal Cold War with the russians. Before the gov't cuts the social benefits that we are forced to pay for, the gov't needs to not spare the defense budget for reduction, not even think of eliminating capital gains tax and come clean on what type of deductions that they wish to eliminate from federal income taxes.
Why not then give the option for OP to dropout and give the 70 somethig the optio of nthere moeny back with interest. It seems strnage to hear this when you hear people wanting free stuff with no lifetime of payig into a non-optional system. Otherwise the Op has no gripe just as the 70 something never had for their working life.Don't buy govenramnt insurance is the message;perhaps.
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