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read 1st page only.... Right after 911 one of Clintons Gals came on FOX and said 911 would never have happened if guns were not allowed in private hands. I spent more than 800 dollars buying 2 AK-47's, and consider that putting my money where my mouth is.
There's a thread:
My AK-47 in New Hampshire would have stopped 9/11.
yep, trust fund "loans" out their funds just like a bank would, makes more sense then a stack of bills under your bed.
a good idea if they get a good return in the form of interest but i'd prefer any of my retirement funds "locked up' in good solid securities with a reasonable rate of return the closer to retirement you get so that interest compounding has a chance to kick in. Demographic profiles of your citizenry would probably show similar stats to ours ~ a boatload of boomers about to lunch on ss! Not a good time to have a bunch of that fund out visiting.
i'm a retired american that would like to spend 1/2 my time up there. Where you from? Any idea what sparrow lake is like now a days? My wife summered there every year as a kid. I'd also like to visit lake agnew, was there as a kid.
I'm in southern ontario and the sparrow lke I know of is on the trent/severn system and the second lake north of the big lake simcoe. Have been across it a bunch of times while touring the canal system. A nice area but ringed with cottages and developments now. Ontario is bigger than Texas with literally thousands of lakes dotting throughout. You could do far worse than pick a spot up here for the summer to hunt fish or otherwise enjoy your retirement.
while eating lunch today, I heard a couple of 70 something seniors complaining about "that socialist O-bama" and even tried to link that Texas A & M killer with the "evil one." Now, I know that these four older white southerners didn't have any intention of voting for Obama or any Dem presidential candidate for that matter. But what upset me was how one of the old men was complaining about how Obama is saddling his grandchildren with debt. Yet, I didn't hear him volunteer to pay more for his Medicare benefits as per the Ryan plan, yet he's Ok with the younger folk paying payroll taxes to support the program and receive less benefits. What ever happened to "shared sacrifice?"
It's a fact that our bloated defense budget in real dollars is twice than that of the Eisenhower admin, which was engaged in a brutal Cold War with the russians. Before the gov't cuts the social benefits that we are forced to pay for, the gov't needs to not spare the defense budget for reduction, not even think of eliminating capital gains tax and come clean on what type of deductions that they wish to eliminate from federal income taxes.
Whya don't those i their 20's and 30's gripig so much spend less time here callig for more free stuff anf more thime creatig wealth like those missing on thsi forum are doing. perhaps the they would see the gape in wealth between tehm and those who are not here.Get goig and take the opportunity availble or be at the botoom all your life. No one can do it for you.
Thanks, Sparrow is a ways up from Toronto... She stayed at wild echo lodge. There were several lodges and resorts even then, early 50's.
Agnew was 2/3 the way around lake huron about 25 miles north of main hiway. Great fishing, we camped at a landing in the middle of nowhere for days. Some guy in a beautiful Lyman came by to collect "rent" a couple of times, I guess there was a fly in resort on an island. I find it on Google earth and see the landing but even they are seeing cottages dotted all around the shore.
Seniors are too greedy to do anything that might reduce their own government handouts by a single penny. As long as they get what they want, seniors couldn't care less about what happens to the country and the people that are younger than they are.
That is why the Ryan plan to kill Social Security and Medicare specifically exempts people older than 55. Even the most extremist right wing Republican understands that the elderly Tea Partiers would break out the pitchforks if their handout checks were reduced by even a tiny amount.
while eating lunch today, I heard a couple of 70 something seniors complaining about "that socialist O-bama" and even tried to link that Texas A & M killer with the "evil one." Now, I know that these four older white southerners didn't have any intention of voting for Obama or any Dem presidential candidate for that matter. But what upset me was how one of the old men was complaining about how Obama is saddling his grandchildren with debt. Yet, I didn't hear him volunteer to pay more for his Medicare benefits as per the Ryan plan, yet he's Ok with the younger folk paying payroll taxes to support the program and receive less benefits. What ever happened to "shared sacrifice?"
It's a fact that our bloated defense budget in real dollars is twice than that of the Eisenhower admin, which was engaged in a brutal Cold War with the russians. Before the gov't cuts the social benefits that we are forced to pay for, the gov't needs to not spare the defense budget for reduction, not even think of eliminating capital gains tax and come clean on what type of deductions that they wish to eliminate from federal income taxes.
Well, I'm a Old Fart of 78 that spent $17,648 last year on my and the wife's Medicare Premiums (deducted from our Social Security Checks}, Supplemental Medical Insurance (Medicare ain't gonna cover everything ya know), Co-pays (A necessary part of affordable Supplemental Coverage). The $17,648 exceeded 7.5 % of my adjusted gross income therefore giving me a credit on my Federal Income Tax return.
DH and I started paying SS when we started working at 16. DH paid the max from 16 until he was 73. He once did a study for his employer that indicated folks my moms age got far more than they paid, people his age and situation will just about break even, the younger folks will get screwed.
Remember most old poops have grandkids and kids to be concerned about. I don't want anybody's kids paying my living expenses. If you want to really get pissed, start looking at payments to nursing homes for seniors. My mom lived with us while she was dying. Medicare provided medication, a nurse once a week to check on her. They wanted to send her to a facility. We refused. There is a ton of money being wasted on nursing homes and a bunch of rich folks on Medicaid.
Another note. Seniors are advised to get most of their funds out of the stock market and into something more stable when they retire. Many had money in bank CD's, etc. While some of you gripe about having to pay our Medicare and SS, remember that we are not making enough money off of a jumbo CD to buy a good hamburger. We don't see that changing in our lifetimes. It used to be common to get 3.5 or 4 %. No more.
Enjoy your low interest mortgage and car payments.
Spare me the respect for your elders crap. Respect is earned and since the majority of my elders have zero respect for the younger generations, they have a long way to go before they have earned anything.
I also know that my parents are not greedy bastards that would endorse a plan that protects every penny of their government handouts while gleefully screwing over their children and grandchildren. I guess that is what makes them different from the majority of the seniors that demand a lifetime of government handouts at current levels while backing plans to take them away from everyone else.
Without having read every post in this thread, are you saying your parents would NOT take social security benefits that they paid for during their entire working lives?
If not, they probably should have taken an IQ test before they bred.
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Originally Posted by septuagenarian
Well, I'm a Old Fart of 78 that spent $17,648 last year on my and the wife's Medicare Premiums (deducted from our Social Security Checks}, Supplemental Medical Insurance (Medicare ain't gonna cover everything ya know), Co-pays (A necessary part of affordable Supplemental Coverage). The $17,648 exceeded 7.5 % of my adjusted gross income therefore giving me a credit on my Federal Income Tax return.
You can't tell people that. They are convinced Medicare is free.
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