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Old 09-13-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Free market does not mean it allows coercion, fraud, or theft. It does not mean people can do what ever they want Einstein. Regulation and laws are fine if it protects from these things and allows for efficiency in the price system of goods and services. You love government controll over the market because you fail to see the corruption that such control and price setting have on the information contained in the price itself. Price controls distrort the market - of course those in controll will always benifit from it. Get a clue! You and you false dichotomy are laughable - it is the type of regulation that matters Genius - ones that allow the market to freely exist while protecting the players from those things mentioned above. They should facilitate the flow of goods and services not create mazes of obfuscation so our 'servants' can rob us of our weath while they ingratiate themsleves and their buddies at the expense of others.

Go smell balls!

He's too busy blaming white people for all of his own shortcomings to see the forest from the trees.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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Free market does not mean it allows coercion, fraud, or theft. It does not mean people can do what ever they want Einstein. Regulation and laws are fine if it protects from these things and allows for efficiency in the price system of goods and services. You love government controll over the market because you fail to see the corruption that such control and price setting have on the information contained in the price itself. Price controls distrort the market - of course those in controll will always benifit from it. Get a clue! You and you false dichotomy are laughable - it is the type of regulation that matters Genius - ones that allow the market to freely exist while protecting the players from those things mentioned above. They should facilitate the flow of goods and services not create mazes of obfuscation so our 'servants' can rob us of our weath while they ingratiate themsleves and their buddies at the expense of others.

Go smell balls!
The free market will allow anything it wants as long as there are no rules or regulations and the haves can control it at their free will. I'm not sure how a limited government in your world would facilitate that. You have libertarians complaining about rules that force you to make people leave a bar at 2 a.m. in the morning, I'd love to see the the tissue soft rules you guys would create. As far as balls are concerned, the only balls you'll be sniffing are either a democrat or republican for a looooooonnnnnnnnnggggg time.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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it wont be the kind of the life you want because we won't be seeing gary johnson or any other libertarians anytime soon, so I guess you'll just be living under that democrat or republican land.
Probably true -- Utopia/Ameritopia/Ecotopia is a fantasy no matter who promises it.

But since Romney is little more than Obama-lite, and the hard-core of the Religious Right are similarly addicted to authority and power, perhaps it's best to just sit on the fence and let Obama and his groupies take full accountability for their folly.

When the juggernaut finally collapses, those of us who saw it coming will be better prepared. As for Chicago -- let it freeze in the dark.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:56 PM
 
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He's too busy blaming white people for all of his own shortcomings to see the forest from the trees.
oh please, white people haven't prevented me from doing anything. I'm living a great life in an 99% white area where you have to have a little bit of coin to live. Got a white wife, have mostly white friends, and I'm the only minority in the small company I work for. I can assure you, white people haven't oppressed me at all.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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oh please, white people haven't prevented me from doing anything. I'm living a great life in an 99% white area where you have to have a little bit of coin to live. Got a white wife, have mostly white friends, and I'm the only minority in the small company I work for. I can assure you, white people haven't oppressed me at all.

So then what the Hell are you whining about?
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:59 PM
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The free market will allow anything it wants as long as there are no rules or regulations and the haves can control it at their free will. I'm not sure how a limited government in your world would facilitate that. You have libertarians complaining about rules that force you to make people leave a bar at 2 a.m. in the morning, I'd love to see the the tissue soft rules you guys would create. As far as balls are concerned, the only balls you'll be sniffing are either a democrat or republican for a looooooonnnnnnnnnggggg time.
You seem to enjoy that smell - keep it going
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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Probably true -- Utopia/Ameritopia/Ecotopia is a fantasy no matter who promises it.

But since Romney is little more than Obama-lite, and the hard-core of the Religious Right are similarly addicted to authority and power, perhaps it's best to just sit on the fence and let Obama and his groupies take full accountability for their folly.

When the juggernaut finally collapses, those of us who saw it coming will be better prepared. As for Chicago -- let it freeze in the dark.
better prepared for what, even if obama stinks up the joint for another 4 years, you guys won't sniff the oval office. you don't even have the numbers. Your party is even more extreme than the tea party. You can forget about minorities, you might get a small percentage of liberal whites, almost all of the tea party would join you, and a good percentage of young republicans. You will never have the numbers.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:01 PM
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oh please, white people haven't prevented me from doing anything. I'm living a great life in an 99% white area where you have to have a little bit of coin to live. Got a white wife, have mostly white friends, and I'm the only minority in the small company I work for. I can assure you, white people haven't oppressed me at all.
The Dems must hate you - sellout!
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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You seem to enjoy that smell - keep it going
its a wonderful smell, i smell it all day long.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:03 PM
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better prepared for what, even if obama stinks up the joint for another 4 years, you guys won't sniff the oval office. you don't even have the numbers. Your party is even more extreme than the tea party. You can forget about minorities, you might get a small percentage of liberal whites, almost all of the tea party would join you, and a good percentage of young republicans. You will never have the numbers.
The truth never has the 'numbers.'
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