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View Poll Results: What do you consider to be middle income?
$10,000-$50,000 4 4.17%
$50,001-$75,000 52 54.17%
$75,001-$100,000 21 21.88%
$100,001-$150,000 13 13.54%
$50,001-$200,000 5 5.21%
$200,001-$250,000 1 1.04%
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 09-14-2012, 09:19 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Does a house = shack there?
No... Very historic homes, about 2000 sq.ft or less.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Inwood
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I think the better question is what is consider middle class after taxes income.

For example: a family of 4 with 2 being children making 18k get about 10k back from credits, that bring them to about 28k take home page.

However, a family of 4 with 2 being children making 40k a year also take about about 28k after tax.

So in this example, family of 4 making 18k and 40k have the same after tax income.
This post makes no sense a family of 4 @ 18k may pay less in federal income tax depending on their exemptions of course, but they still pay payroll tax. In the end they will most likely get money back during tax season. For the family of four @ 40k they most likely will pay payroll taxes and most likely not pay any federal income tax depending on exemptions of course. The major difference between the two would be amount of refund received.

If you are making 18k you will not get 10k back you may lower your taxable income by 10k. If you are making 40k and only taking in 28k with 2 kids you are a moron or letting a moron do your taxes.

Don't post about taxes if you don't know what your talking about...

Source: I'm an accountant
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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No... Very historic homes, about 2000 sq.ft or less.
Do they require a lot of work to get them to look halfway decent looking?
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Inwood
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I think you all are nuts if you think 100k to 150k is middle class when a large percentage of Americans are making minimum wage. Middle class to me means what the medium income is which is around 50k so I would say more like 25k to 75k.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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It should also be noted I am talking about the income of a family. An individual would be different.
Well, you probably should've mentioned that.

I voted based on individual income, whereas a family would obviously require more... and given that I'm a single-person household myself, it's no surprise I didn't know you meant multi-person household! Those are two entirely different questions & situations, ya know?
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Does a house = shack there?
LOL... around here, you'd be lucky to find a parking spot for $10,000.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Do they require a lot of work to get them to look halfway decent looking?
I imagine so, judging by this (1540sf) house which is selling for $74,900 there: http://www.realtor.com/realestateand...4_M78531-10181

Couldn't find any listings cheaper than that, but there were only three altogether - so maybe the $10K homes just aren't on the market now.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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We know the "average" teacher's salary in Chicago is $76k for 10 month's worth of work. Many teachers take summer jobs to supplement their incomes. That means a two-teacher family could conceivably make $200+k/year, depending upon where on the pay scale they are and how they supplement their income. IMO teachers are middle-class.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:00 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Romney says $200 - $250K. You guys are all way too low.

Romney says UP TO $200k-$250k. he nailed it. that is the upper end of middle class.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:25 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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We know the "average" teacher's salary in Chicago is $76k for 10 month's worth of work. Many teachers take summer jobs to supplement their incomes. That means a two-teacher family could conceivably make $200+k/year, depending upon where on the pay scale they are and how they supplement their income. IMO teachers are middle-class.
As they should be, considering a post-graduate education is required for the job. Btw, that number might sound high, but it's actually lower-than-average for comparable professions: Chicago Public School Teachers Highlight Perennial Debate of Teacher Pay - ABC News

That's also not true in every state, and as I learned personally (while working for a public school), finding summer work isn't that easy or lucrative. You really think they earn $24K in 2 months, from doing something like tutoring or working at a camp? Not likely.
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