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Oh I see, that's why you wanted his clone named Obama elected.
I suppose that if Obama had just promised what he actually would deliver and had come out and in his campaign had promised that he would keep the wars going in the Middle East and even get us involved in some other messes over there, and kept unemployment rates high for Americans that many of you would have voted for him.
He absolutely did promise to increase our troop presence in Afghanistan during the 2008 campaign.
You know, where they should have been in the first place.
And, it was announced yesterday that the surge troops are all pulling out as immediately as is logistically possible.
As for the OP, it is absolutely horrible that two Marines died, however it was reported. Matter of fact Rachel Maddow reports on war casualties every single night on her show.
Oh, yes he is. He set the course of the war and Obama cannot change the basic strategy at this point without making the consequences of even success far, far worse. Remember the old saw about changing horses in the middle of the stream? It actually applies in this case.
Obama still must play the hand Bush dealt him.
It's been 4 years almost. Things are most certainly not better than when Obama took over.
The Taliban originally came into being in the power vacuum left after the Soviet invasion of the 1980s. They came to power largely because they were the most brutal, and were able to claim Allah as on their side. They succeeded in keeping the people mired in a 13th century culture, where women were banned from working, girls from going to school, females in general were little more than property. Honestly, who cares, it ain't our problem, and the citizens of Afganistan let it happen. From what I have read, Osamsa and AQ weren't real popular with the Tailban. They reasoned correctly that the attacks would provoke our attack and invasion of the country.
The important thing to realize is that we are not fighting a war in the conventional sense, against an enemy army under the command of a known political leadership. We're fighting cowards who hide behind civilians, women and children. And we are hamstrung by far more consideration of civilian casualities than the Taliban ever thought of. Yet still, the civilian population often hide and aids the very people who threaten and murder them.
Once we isolated Bin Laden in '01 we should have nuked the area and been done with it. As of now, pull out all our people, aid and resources and let the Taliban go back to brutalizing women and lalalalalaing for their pedophile profit. Not our problem, much of the civilian population doesn't give a damn enough to to anything for themselves. We have no reason to try to fix that country. Should have figured that out by '03.
I didn't say they were. But, I can't see how he could've done anything different from what he has done, can you?
Yes, pulled out. What are we accomplishing? Nothing outside of getting our soldiers killed. Even you note that we are not accomplishing anything. Why are we still there then?
Because the previous Republican leaders dropped the ball in Afganistan and decided to attack a nation that was of no threat to us instead of eliminating the Taliban and Al Quida once and for all.
And Obama is doing a better job? You have a serious problem with history. We didn't go into Iraq until 2003. We attacked the Taliban and Al Quaida in 2001 and 2002. No, we didn't finish them off, but they were seriously hurt. The enemy is constantly changing, and Obama needs to adapt to the new situation. This isn't 2008 anymore.
I didn't say they were. But, I can't see how he could've done anything different from what he has done, can you?
As President that is his job! We can talk about it all day, but he is the president. Now our job is to elect a new president!
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