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No fin.. the victims are the people who think they are entitled to everything because they have a victim mentality.
I doubt vets feel that way as they served our country with honor and deserve support as they supported our freedoms.
Thanks your always a breath of fresh air. All you have to do is look at the Obama voters lately on tv the people voting for him, and you will clearly see the mentality of these people.
They don't have a freaking clue, the people polled, some cannot make this crap up, did not even know Bin Laden was killed. Come on now, how ignorant can you be.
One said Romeny was muslim, this is a joke these people voting, they don't know the first thing about politics in general, yet these are the people voting.
With Obama, do not expect the victim mentality to go away any time soon!
All vets that I know dont trust Obama. Many have a lot of doubts about how Obama is using the military.
I don't trust how President Obama is using the military either; however, I have less trust in electing a neocon. We have already had our experience with George Bush. I don't want to go back.
Veterans remain some of the least informed people who vote. In 2003 it was reported somewhere around 70% of active duty service members thought Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11. It should come as no surprise to anyone that veterans support the 250 million dollar draft dodger who hid out in France when he could have manned up and volunteered for a war he supported.
It isn't free. Some military members pay for those benefits with their very lives. That is a much higher price than most people are willing to pay.
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Do they not apply for those jobs?
Do they not know the perils of war?
Does anyone force them to take these jobs?
Yes, dear, they did apply, they did know, and they weren't forced. But don't forget, part of the employer's (US government) promise of compensation for that risk was if they were permanently injured or stuck it out for over 20 years, that they would receive free medical care for themselves and their family members (which as been partially rescinded) and that if they died the employer (US government) would help take care of their spouse and children. This is in an actual contract that was signed by the service member and an authorized agent of the government.
This is an example of how out of touch they are with military/veteran voters:
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Obama’s campaign wants to increase turnout among younger veterans thanks to the repeal of the ban on gays in the military under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy — the president issued a statement last Thursday marking the one-year anniversary of that decision
Yes, many were for the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" but not all for the same reason. Even young veterans tend to be more conservative than their civilian peers, especially on social issues.
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“Events in the Middle East may trump Romney’s success to date with military families. If the entire region explodes, military families may gravitate to Obama as part of a rising tide of support for the existing commander in chief,” he wrote in an email. “Obama is the devil voters know.”
Yes, he is. Which is why I will not be voting for him.
Do policemen not apply for the job?
Do firemen not apply for the job?
No one forces them to take those jobs.
Our military serves to protect our country. Police and firemen serve to protect and save lifes, knowing that they put their lives on the line. I guess no pity for those who died saving people on 9/11 because they knew risk that went with their job. And how dare the government provide widow/widower benefits and child benefits to those who sacrificed their lives!!! Why should those who survived be given medical care to treat the after effects? We don't own they anything, along with the military who come back disabled, right?
Why makes these people who serve our country, die for our country so special? Why should they be treated any different from the man or woman who holds a 9-5 office job?
They all do.
What is the military doing to protect the US?
Not a darned thing.
I see you let your emotions get in the way of actually reading what I've written.
No surprise that you didn't.
Yes, dear, they did apply, they did know, and they weren't forced. But don't forget, part of the employer's (US government) promise of compensation for that risk was if they were permanently injured or stuck it out for over 20 years, that they would receive free medical care for themselves and their family members (which as been partially rescinded) and that if they died the employer (US government) would help take care of their spouse and children. This is in an actual contract that was signed by the service member and an authorized agent of the government.
Dear?
Please, condescend much?
Try reading what I wrote, or did you choose not to do so?
Obama gave me the Post 9/11 GI Bill and it paid for my degree. It probably wasn't the most fiscally responsible thing to do, since vets like myself who'd already used the Montgomery GI Bill could still get this new GI Bill, but I'm thankful nonetheless. I guess that makes me a bit a hypocrite, but I can honestly say I just don't give two flips anymore. This country is going bankrupt and there's no stopping it.
I don't trust how President Obama is using the military either; however, I have less trust in electing a neocon. We have already had our experience with George Bush. I don't want to go back.
This vet. will be voting for Obama.
Like you I dont trust either of them, but then I never met a politician that was worthy of trust. This vet will be voting 3rd party.
Neither are really interested in making the hard decision when it comes to budget cuts.
Neither has any clue about the military culture.
Neither seem to be able to stick to the facts.
The only advantage I see in Romney is the fact that he does understand business and he understands it quite well, unlike Obama.
Neither talk about infra structer. (In a serious manner that suggests a priority).
Another damned if you do damned if you dont election.
They all do.
What is the military doing to protect the US?
Not a darned thing.
I see you let your emotions get in the way of actually reading what I've written.
No surprise that you didn't.
Now be fair Chiel. You cant blame the military for not doing their base mission if their civilian masters dont allow them to do so.
It's like saying that hammer isn't driving nails when the one swinging it is using it to break windows.
If I had my way we would cut the military by 30% along with this we would stop acting as the world's police force.
11 carrier battle groups????? Billions a year to maintain. Why are we the only ones in the world that need 11 carrier battle groups?
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. And how dare the government provide widow/widower benefits and child benefits to those who sacrificed their lives!!! Why should those who survived be given medical care to treat the after effects? We don't own they anything, along with the military who come back disabled, right?
