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Old 11-01-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Sheboygan, WI
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The risks are still incredibly low, as only 6 women in total died from abortions that year.
One death is one death too many, to think any less is to devalue life itself.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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One death is one death too many, to think any less is to devalue life itself.
If they carried the pregnancy to term, they would have a much higher risk of death

.0006% chance of death via abortion
.024% chance of death via childbirth
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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One death is one death too many, to think any less is to devalue life itself.
Well then there will be no more organized sports because there have been documented deaths due to sports, can't work because people have died at desk jobs, can't drive because people have died on the road.

Wow, in your world what exactly do people do if ONE death is too many?
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Sheboygan, WI
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Well then there will be no more organized sports because there have been documented deaths due to sports, can't work because people have died at desk jobs, can't drive because people have died on the road.

Wow, in your world what exactly do people do if ONE death is too many?
There's a big difference between someone dying purely by accident and someone undergoing a procedure that not only intends to murder the unborn but has a proven track record of being the cause of death to thousands of mothers. Abortion is NOT a necessity, therefore death by abortion is not necessary.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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There's a big difference between someone dying purely by accident and someone undergoing a procedure that not only intends to murder the unborn but has a proven track record of being the cause of death to thousands of mothers. Abortion is NOT a necessity, therefore death by abortion is not necessary.
So if death by accident isn't appropriate for your logic...you're saying that when someone dies from an abortion it was...on purpose?

Driving is NOT a necessity, playing sports is NOT a necessity and people die from reasons that aren't accident in both of those, so I'm trying to figure out what makes abortion fit in your analogy and not those
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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There's a big difference between someone dying purely by accident and someone undergoing a procedure that not only intends to murder the unborn but has a proven track record of being the cause of death to thousands of mothers. Abortion is NOT a necessity, therefore death by abortion is not necessary.
For some types of pregnancy complication (e.g., ectopic pregnancy, preeclampsia/HELLP syndrome, sepsis, cancer), abortion is the only option to save the mother's life. In those cases, it is a necessity.

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Old 11-01-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Yes, where are your statistics concerning this?
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I was wondering the same thing. I wonder too, just how is it the op's business what women he doesn't know do with their own bodies?

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Was just about to ask the same thing.
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You got some numbers to substantiate your "too many."
49% of abortion seekers have had more than one abortion. Which means abortion is being used as birth control. Look it up. Guttmacher.

Last edited by CaseyB; 11-01-2012 at 05:17 PM..
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Given the poster's location, it might very well be the case that he sees a higher number of abortions than the country as a whole, and that is affecting his perceptions of reality. And those of us who reside in wealthy suburbs with excellent healthcare, including access to effective birth control, may similarly be underestimating how large a problem serial abortion is for his community.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Sheboygan, WI
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So if death by accident isn't appropriate for your logic...you're saying that when someone dies from an abortion it was...on purpose?

Driving is NOT a necessity, playing sports is NOT a necessity and people die from reasons that aren't accident in both of those, so I'm trying to figure out what makes abortion fit in your analogy and not those
You are correct, no one is required to drive, play sports, and certainly procure an abortion. But when you do you have to accept the risks that are involved. The difference is that abortion HAS THE INTENT TO KILL first and foremost, directly towards the child and in many instances indirectly towards the mother.

The person I quoted originally cited 6 instances, argue with them.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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49% of abortion seekers have had more than one abortion. Which means abortion is being used as birth control. Look it up. Guttmacher.
That statistic means little without context.

Last edited by CaseyB; 11-01-2012 at 05:17 PM..
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