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Old 11-04-2012, 08:02 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Yes, I noticed that as well. I thought it quite odd and the tin foil hat in me thought it was for insurance purposes as well.

And while they downgraded it they also stressed that it was not weaker.

And the media isn't using hurricane either. It's "superstorm sandy".
Nothing odd or tinfoil hat about it, when it hit, it scientifically was no longer a hurricane.

Here in NY we didn't even have hurricane warnings, it was high wind and flood warnings.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nothing odd or tinfoil hat about it, when it hit, it scientifically was no longer a hurricane.

Here in NY we didn't even have hurricane warnings, it was high wind and flood warnings.
Usually it's downgraded after landfall as landfall weakens it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Usually it's downgraded after landfall as landfall weakens it.
It was downgraded before the eye made landfall. It was right around the time the outer bands of the storm hit us. It didn't weaken, it lost tropical characteristics (stopped rotating and hit another cold air system). It was referred to as a "Post tropical cyclone".

Sandy loses hurricane status, still big threat - CBS News

Hurricane Sandy: Not Your Average Tropical Cyclone « CBS Philly

No hurricane warning issued, even as Sandy bore down on East Coast - Sun Sentinel
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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Million-dollar beach front vacation homes with no flood insurance? No. Residential homes destroyed when an inland levy lets go? Yes.

I spent my childhood on Long Beach Island in NJ. I'm questioning whether or not some of these areas should be rebuilt. After 1962 my grandfather used to tell my other relatives that they were on borrowed time because someday a bigger hurricane was going to hit and the whole island would be flooded.

He never lived to see his prediction come true but it is naive to believe that even if we rebuild again these homes will be safe from another similar or larger weather event doing it all again.

The 100/500-year flood standards need to be critically evaluated.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well that downgrade will save homeowners thousands upon thousands of dollars in deductibles.
State Insurance Departments Seek to Quell Controversy Over Applicability of Hurricane Deductible
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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When Cuomo says "Washington" he means you and me. Should Obama agree to pay 100% of the cleanup ? Typical Democrat who says just print more money. All done by union workers.

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Were you asking years ago if 'you and I' should pay 100% of the cost of freedom for Iraqis?

Are you asking if 'you and I' should be paying to arm the Egytians and the Israelis?

If you're old enough, did you ask if 'you and I' should've paid for Viegtnamese freedom?

Or is it only paying for something American that gets your skivvies in a twist?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Nah, just leave everyone to rot and the infrastructure in disrepair. It's cool. Unbelievable.
Also helps our nation as a whole, especially when these storms continue picking away at our country.

BTW, why hasn't the "private sector" stepped up to the plate to rebuild? Oh yea, it would not be profitable for them.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Or is it only paying for something American that gets your skivvies in a twist?
If you would take the time to actually read, it's the % that's in question. Should a very rich area like NY City not contribute 25% to it's own infrastructure ? We are not discussing personal homes or Interstate highways here.

What is NYC's "Fair Share" as Obama likes to say ? They are many of the top 10% of the wealthiest.

Or does being a heavily democratic area mean they get more than Gulfport Mississippi received after Katrina ? It's not like NY & NJ are heavy welfare states.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It was downgraded before the eye made landfall. It was right around the time the outer bands of the storm hit us. It didn't weaken, it lost tropical characteristics (stopped rotating and hit another cold air system). It was referred to as a "Post tropical cyclone".

Sandy loses hurricane status, still big threat - CBS News

Hurricane Sandy: Not Your Average Tropical Cyclone « CBS Philly

No hurricane warning issued, even as Sandy bore down on East Coast - Sun Sentinel
I think the only reason it was downgraded was its lack of rotation, the winds were still hurricane strength. It might create some interesting insurance litigation in the states.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Also helps our nation as a whole, especially when these storms continue picking away at our country.

BTW, why hasn't the "private sector" stepped up to the plate to rebuild? Oh yea, it would not be profitable for them.
Companies are not in business for humanitarian reasons. Learn the difference.
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