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Old 11-01-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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Would you say when stopping someone's heart violently and against their will is murder?




















If so then why do you agree with abortion? Its stops a beating heart.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Abortion stops a beating heart.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Yep.Which is why I want to know 1. What people consider murder and 2.If you agree it stops a beating heart against ones will then how can you be for abortion...I bet someone is going to try and argue babies can't have a will or some such nonsense.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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Murder is the unlawful taking of another human life. Since abortion is legal it cannot be construed as murder. The same is also true for self-defense.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Murder is the unlawful taking of another human life. Since abortion is legal it cannot be construed as murder. The same is also true for self-defense.
Abortion is not self defense.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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Abortion is not self defense.
Not, but it isn't murder either, as so eloquently put for by Glitch.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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Murder is the unlawful taking of another human life. Since abortion is legal it cannot be construed as murder. The same is also true for self-defense.
Murder stops a beating heart...abortion does the same thing...NO ONE in their right mind can deny this.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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Would you say when stopping someone's heart violently and against their will is murder?

If so then why do you agree with abortion? Its stops a beating heart.
The heart, by the way, doesn't require the brain, and the brain is the single most important part of what we consider a person. Everything else is just life-support for it.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Not, but it isn't murder either, as so eloquently put for by Glitch.
Then what do you claim it is? Murder/Abortion both stop a beating heart...so they are the same.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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Then what do you claim it is? Murder/Abortion both stop a beating heart...so they are the same.
Glitch provided an adequate answer for murder which I agree with.

Anytime a heart is stopped, should it be considered murder?
I can stop a heart without killing a person. Would you consider that murder? If this is your reasoning, we have to wage a war against time--it stops millions of hearts.
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