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Old 11-05-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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I've waited 17 years for some action against GE food. This is the least we sould be doing.

Yes on Prop 37

The people shouldn't have to be held responsible for KNOWing all the underhanded, dangerous things they need to avoid. Besides the bio-tech companies go to great lengths to hide their activities.

We told them we didn't want GMO's. They had 17 years to create labling their way, before we demanded it (after 17 years)

We waited 17 years to get labeling; let's not pass up the opportunity.

"37 - fraught with problems" That's not our problem. When at first you practice to deceive...." They shouldn't have EVER started genetically altering OUR food, and they could've predicted the public wouldn't want it(actually, there were polls taken).

They knew; but money blinded them. Now their spending $40 million of the billions they have, into ads against labeling, and to bribe newspapers into writing anti-labeling op/eds.


Bio-manipulation causes MORE problems, and it's unethical and illegal to do it against the public's will(The US was 80% against this when it started in 1995).
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:53 PM
 
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I've waited 17 years for some action against GE food. This is the least we sould be doing.
then wait till the Federal Govt mandates it. It doesn't belong as an issue to states. It'll raise food costs to those who live in the state, because manufactureres need to make "special" labels for food to be sold there.

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Yes on Prop 37
Vote No on Prop 37. The cost to implement the program that only "benefits" one state is wasted effort for farmers, manufacturers, packaging, and advertising. That cost shift would only hurt those that live in that state.

This should be a national driven initiative.



There is nothing good about this proposition except to already make it MORE expensive to live in California.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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then wait till the Federal Govt mandates it. It doesn't belong as an issue to states. It'll raise food costs to those who live in the state, because manufactureres need to make "special" labels for food to be sold there.



Vote No on Prop 37. The cost to implement the program that only "benefits" one state is wasted effort for farmers, manufacturers, packaging, and advertising. That cost shift would only hurt those that live in that state.

This should be a national driven initiative.



There is nothing good about this proposition except to already make it MORE expensive to live in California.
So save on costs, manufacturers are likely to label all products sold outside of California, especially if its a national brand like what you see stocked in Walmart. Vote yes
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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Surprisingly I'm not in favor of this. Labels, signs, info, blablabla have become environmental pollution and nobody pays attention anymore and it's BS for the most part. It reminds me of that old song "Signs, signs, everywhere there's signs, fracking up the scenery, breakin' my mind. Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign".

But then "genetically engineered" are not words that scare me.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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There is nothing good about this proposition except to already make it MORE expensive to live in California.
I'm a conservative, but even on this issues I see the benefit of KNOWING when the food is GE and currently they can get labels of fresh and maybe even organic with GE food. Better to not allow that IMO.

Just came from the polls in Norwalk where I walked in and voted.

No on all new taxes and yes on 32.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Good luck with that. Couldn't even get COOL labeling on anything more than raw butcher meat and fresh vegetables/fruit.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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I really hope this passes.I wish people understood the poison they put in their food.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:56 PM
 
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So save on costs, manufacturers are likely to label all products sold outside of California, especially if its a national brand like what you see stocked in Walmart. Vote yes

again, you fail to understand: Even the National brands have to "follow" this law (and some national brands actually package their food in California). And the law is so arbitrary that it doesn't even "help" you get educated on anything.

Dog food can be labeled as "genetically engineered" food, but the meat you get from the butcher (from cows who eat genetically engineered hay, and grain), will not be labeled.


so, the cost shift will happen.

This needs to be a FEDERAL level / National level law . not done by a state to only penalize the citizens of that state.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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I'm a conservative, but even on this issues I see the benefit of KNOWING when the food is GE and currently they can get labels of fresh and maybe even organic with GE food. Better to not allow that IMO.

Just came from the polls in Norwalk where I walked in and voted.

No on all new taxes and yes on 32.

^_^ I voted "NO" to any new taxes. I did vote yes on "32" despite all the dumb commercials that say what it doesn't do and to vote no. I read the damn proposition.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:04 PM
 
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Surprisingly I'm not in favor of this. Labels, signs, info, blablabla have become environmental pollution and nobody pays attention anymore and it's BS for the most part. It reminds me of that old song "Signs, signs, everywhere there's signs, fracking up the scenery, breakin' my mind. Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign".

But then "genetically engineered" are not words that scare me.
You never Ceece to amaze me.

I detest Monsanto and it's policies and business activities, not the technology and science behind their seeds. Fear-mongering about GMOs is akin to being afraid electricity.
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