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Old 11-16-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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There are many problems with greed. ( edited as thats all thats needed to be said)

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:18 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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The essence of socialism is deception. At first it appears that its policies are motivated by the highest of human ideals:compassion, caring, etc. Socialists’ appeals are made on behalf of the poor, the children, the disenfranchised. The reality is that socialism appeals to jealousy, hatred, greed and envy.

The number one attraction is a promise to provide people with economic benefits they have not earned by forcefully taking from the earnings of others. To condone and encourage this “legal plunder” is the epitome of greed.

Socialism operates as a parasite. It takes the earned wealth of the productive members of society and redistributes it to the non-productive members until all the accumulated wealth is dissipated. This does not mean your life will get better because there will be more people to redistribute to, a larger taker base. If unchecked, the process continues until all members of society with the exception of the ruling elite will live in deprivation and poverty. Average citizens are eventually reduced to a state of servitude to the state.

Your a very smart intituative person. Your right in your assestment of socialism and how it begins with deception.

You have a very keen essense about you, and i like that.

Your right on, dont' care if others disagree or not, really do not care.

I know what your saying to be true, so no arguement from me, but i am aware others will argue the point.

And by the way, we are going to get worse and told you so! don't have a stupid financial adviser, he is smart and told me before Obama even won, if he did, we are screwed, and that many many comapnies, would do what they now are. Argue all the way you want, don't care. You ain't see nothing yet, and told you so.

Only hope and pray for the sake of this Country, the things he told me are not going to happen, but he has been right on.

And appears, things have only just begun!

And i do hope, that the economy moves, and we do not go further over the cliff, which i have been told we will.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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Medical giant Stryker cuts 1,170 jobs, citing ObamaCare

Executives from medical supply giant Stryker place blame on upcoming job cuts squarely on ObamaCare

Hoping all the employees that are losing their jobs are clown Obozo supporters.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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The essence of socialism is deception. At first it appears that its policies are motivated by the highest of human ideals:compassion, caring, etc. Socialists’ appeals are made on behalf of the poor, the children, the disenfranchised. The reality is that socialism appeals to jealousy, hatred, greed and envy.

The number one attraction is a promise to provide people with economic benefits they have not earned by forcefully taking from the earnings of others. To condone and encourage this “legal plunder” is the epitome of greed.

Socialism operates as a parasite. It takes the earned wealth of the productive members of society and redistributes it to the non-productive members until all the accumulated wealth is dissipated. This does not mean your life will get better because there will be more people to redistribute to, a larger taker base. If unchecked, the process continues until all members of society with the exception of the ruling elite will live in deprivation and poverty. Average citizens are eventually reduced to a state of servitude to the state.






Neo-Liberalism

[Neo-Liberalism a.k.a. "Progressivism"

“Here I encounter the most popular fallacy of our times. It is not considered sufficient that the law should be just; it must be philanthropic. Nor is it sufficient that the law should guarantee to every citizen the free and inoffensive use of his faculties for physical, intellectual, and moral self-improvement. Instead, it is demanded that the law should directly extend welfare, education, and morality throughout the nation. This is the seductive lure of socialism. … These two uses of the law are in direct contradiction to each other. We must choose between them. A citizen cannot at the same time be free and not free.”
-Frederic Bastiat
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Originally Posted by petch751
The essence of socialism is deception. At first it appears that its policies are motivated by the highest of human ideals:compassion, caring, etc. Socialists’ appeals are made on behalf of the poor, the children, the disenfranchised. The reality is that socialism appeals to jealousy, hatred, greed and envy.

The number one attraction is a promise to provide people with economic benefits they have not earned by forcefully taking from the earnings of others. To condone and encourage this “legal plunder” is the epitome of greed.

Socialism operates as a parasite. It takes the earned wealth of the productive members of society and redistributes it to the non-productive members until all the accumulated wealth is dissipated. This does not mean your life will get better because there will be more people to redistribute to, a larger taker base. If unchecked, the process continues until all members of society with the exception of the ruling elite will live in deprivation and poverty. Average citizens are eventually reduced to a state of servitude to the state.






Neo-Liberalism

[Neo-Liberalism a.k.a. "Progressivism"

“Here I encounter the most popular fallacy of our times. It is not considered sufficient that the law should be just; it must be philanthropic. Nor is it sufficient that the law should guarantee to every citizen the free and inoffensive use of his faculties for physical, intellectual, and moral self-improvement. Instead, it is demanded that the law should directly extend welfare, education, and morality throughout the nation. This is the seductive lure of socialism. … These two uses of the law are in direct contradiction to each other. We must choose between them. A citizen cannot at the same time be free and not free.”
-Frederic Bastiat

So on the other side of the spectrum you have Capitalism which is feud on greed. Is that any better for a caring society?
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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So on the other side of the spectrum you have Capitalism which is feud on greed. Is that any better for a caring society?
"Caring society" is the new double-speak for communism.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:53 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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"Caring society" is the new double-speak for communism.
Communisim is the word that McCarthy used back in the 50's to scare the bejesus out of people, pretty much like the politicans like to used the word "terrorism" to keep people in check. Heck, it worked for bush/cheney
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