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Old 11-12-2012, 03:42 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Actually North testified under a grant of immunity.
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If and when (maybe) the general is called to the stand, he doesn't have to say anything, fifth amendment. As oliver north did with iran-contra.
Oliver North Pleads the Fifth During Iran Contra Hearings


Oliver North :: essays research papers

BBC News | AMERICAS | Pleading the Fifth

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Colonel North repeatedly invoked the Fifth when asked about his involvement in the affair.

Challenged by Congress to admit his involvement, Colonel North consistently refused to answer questions.
"On the advice of my counsel I respectfully and regretfully decline to answer the question based on my constitutional rights," he said.North was given a three-year suspended sentence for his role in the affair, but was later pardoned.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:58 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You need to do more research:

Walsh Iran / Contra Report - Chapter 2 United States v. Oliver L. North

Schenectady Gazette - Google News Archive Search
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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After reviewing Paula Broadwell's speech and subsequent newspaper reporting, if Broadwell's account is accurate, it appears there were a couple of Libyan militia members being held prisoner at the CIA annex.

All the pieces are starting to fit together.



(Note: there are two links above.)
Broadwell apparently had no fixed formal post in the government; she is described only sketchily as a West Point graduate, a former major in the military (quick rise through the ranks?), an "anti terrorist expert" and a "writer" (who has no books, let alone biographies, to her credit).

How could she be speaking publicly (though cryptically) regarding Benghazi? Why would she be so stupid as to say there were prisoners being held? Who at the WH would allow that? How did this woman gain access to the top so easily?

This morning's reports say that Petraeus may not testify, that Morell will testify in his place. We should be demanding to know what on earth would keep Petraeus from testifying. The interestlngly timed loss of his post and title?
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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The Gazette states he was given Limited Immunity after invoking his fifth amendment right, and goes further to say that he proscecuted for perjury, giving a false statement or otherwise failing to comply with the order.
So, North did invoke his fifth amendment rights under the constitution. When he wouldn't answer questions, he was given limited immunity.

After the dust settled, North pretty much walked away smelling like a rose which a dog took a dump on.
Which is what will probably happen to Petraeus by the republican investigation head hunters.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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If that person were an 'investigative reporter', she would already know the answers to her questions. Paula has been interviewed or made speeches numerous times, and has said how she met him and how the book came to be. Some reporter.
I am not an "investigative reporter." I hold a master's in journalism from a highly respected university journalism school with environmental reporting major. (There are many specializations in journalism.) Not all journalists are reporters in their career, but all are trained in the basic skills and tenets of reporting (101). Even undergraduate journalist students learn how to uncover the story behind the story. And they also learn, as reporters (if they want to keep their jobs), how to accept the given spin and write it up. (Most "stories" are streamed daily out of AP [Associated Press], which is the generic source for "news"—never what you would call investigative).

Often ambitious reporters do uncover leading facts but they are suppressed or spun by the editors, whose job it is to put out the story that the news source wants put out. In addition, "pack" reporters (the reporters who hang on the White House) report specifically what the White House reports.

Investigative reporters do not typically work for the mainstream media; they work on their own or for independent (indie) news sources.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Broadwell apparently had no fixed formal post in the government; she is described only sketchily as a West Point graduate, a former major in the military (quick rise through the ranks?), an "anti terrorist expert" and a "writer" (who has no books, let alone biographies, to her credit).

How could she be speaking publicly (though cryptically) regarding Benghazi? Why would she be so stupid as to say there were prisoners being held? Who at the WH would allow that? How did this woman gain access to the top so easily?

This morning's reports say that Petraeus may not testify, that Morell will testify in his place. We should be demanding to know what on earth would keep Petraeus from testifying. The interestlngly timed loss of his post and title?
People also should be asking what eric cantor's role was in this too? and, what was the context of those threatening emails? I already smell spoiled sardines.
We can demand all we want. You can get onto the floor belly down, pound the floor with your fists, and kick wildly, and scream and holler, but in the end, the legal system protects people from incriminating themselves. All a person has to do is invoke their fifth amendment rights.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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[b][color=blue]....but in the end, the legal system protects people from incriminating themselves. All a person has to do is invoke their fifth amendment rights.
At that level, you are right. Doesn't quite work for certain segments of our society, does it?
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Gee, that makes him like the 5th high ranking military person in the last 3 weeks that is no longer in his job.
Recall they did that shuffle of high ranking officers a few weeks ago with many of them coming back to the US and disappearing into desk jobs.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Broadwell apparently had no fixed formal post in the government; she is described only sketchily as a West Point graduate, a former major in the military (quick rise through the ranks?), an "anti terrorist expert" and a "writer" (who has no books, let alone biographies, to her credit).

How could she be speaking publicly (though cryptically) regarding Benghazi? Why would she be so stupid as to say there were prisoners being held? Who at the WH would allow that? How did this woman gain access to the top so easily?

This morning's reports say that Petraeus may not testify, that Morell will testify in his place. We should be demanding to know what on earth would keep Petraeus from testifying. The interestlngly timed loss of his post and title?
Oh no! Don't tell us..... !! The Dems want to derail the up and coming Repub, Petraeus !!! That's got to be it, huh?
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:53 AM
 
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Oh no! Don't tell us..... !! The Dems want to derail the up and coming Repub, Petraeus !!! That's got to be it, huh?
hint: who knows, it may not have to do with "party" stuff
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