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Old 11-21-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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A life sentence for someone that has been convicted of his 9th DWI is not too extreme of a sentence:


If, he was told by the court after his 8th DWI that if he ever got another one, that it would mean he would be going to prison for the rest of his life.

But if the sentencing judge that handled the 9th DWI, decided to just send him to prison for life, and there was no objective standard set prior and/or it was not made known to him after the 8th DWI that he would face life in prison if he was convicted again, then in that case it is wrong. Especially, considering that a DWI in most states is still a misdemeanor and misdemeanors result in probation and/or jail time, but not life sentences in prison.

If he knew after the previous DWI (8th one) that he would be going to prison for life if he got another one, then he should have at the very least stopped drinking completely and/or never owned a vehicle.


Post of the thread - judges should have latitude to minimize sentences, but not to maximize.

The upper limit for a sentence should only be legislatively prescribed.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't give a **** WHY he is driving drunk, and neither will anyone he kills with his car.
That POS needs to go.

We are WAY to lenient with drunk driving in this country. Frankly, I don't know what is wrong with people and why it's so accepted. It's effed up.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Are you equating homosexuality with rampant alcoholism?! Good lord, that's just about the most asinine thing I've ever read on here, and that is truly saying something.
Both are choices - that is what I am saying.

Nothing makes a person drink, and nothing forces a person to be gay, both are willful choices based in weakness of mind and sin.

Both can also be overcome.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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I sure better not be hearing any gay marriage supporters giving "thumbs up" to this life sentence.
Oh and why is that?
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:55 PM
 
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California state law requires that law enforcement publicize any checkpoints in print media prior to their implementation.
Yep. I find it monumentally stupid.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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Both are choices - that is what I am saying.

Nothing makes a person drink, and nothing forces a person to be gay, both are willful choices based in weakness of mind and sin.

Both can also be overcome.
The Pharisee is strong in this one.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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This is very true. Our justice system needs to focus MUCH more on rehabilitation rather than retribution.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The Pharisee is strong in this one.
The Pharisees were legalistic and were about blindly following the law and were oblivious to the fact that people struggled with sin. They did not understand the verse that states that "the LORD desires mercy, not sacrifice".

Jesus called them hypocrites because they did not acknowledge their own sin.

To them, there was no "overcoming" because they didn't see sin as a struggle - they viewed it strictly in terms of the Mosaic Law.

Your reference to them makes zero sense.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Bet he can't drive if we cut his hands off...
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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Bet he can't drive if we cut his hands off...
Yes, please let's start maiming people in the name of justice.
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