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Old 11-25-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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I live in AZ. Our government cut transplants. Most good insurance companies only pay a portion of transplants, not all. Yet she funded experimental business ventures which cost more in the name of more business in the future of Arizona. Money over health or peoples lives isn't an option to some of us.

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Yes, I am an organ donor. As many Americans are. The people who agreed in my state also didn't educate themselves only to find later it isn't just the people on welfare who suffered from our states decision, they were willing to let them die, which itself is pretty snide. Most people don't have coverage no matter how good their coverage is for many of the other things you need before and after a transplant, they can't afford it, they don't have the cash either. They rely on the state to help cover the rest. Obamacare will hopefully help with most of them unable to get insurance in the future now and I'm sure Republicans will take advantage of it as well.

I don't have to sacrifice health of other Americans to keep the deficit down, that's not patriotic, it's idiotic. That's what my choice would be. If you say to me, NHS would put our country into the poor house then I'd reply with a so what. We are broke without it, lack of it didn't keep us out of the poor house, we can find a way to allow all people the basic right to health and happiness without being "well off"

The jealousy isn't for another t.v. or iphone, it's for the basics. Health, education. Everyone should have that right. Even if it takes a chunk to do it. We should be grown up enough to find a way. I won't sacrifice others health for a government without debt. I'm capable of giving up the iphone instead. Being "well off" is only a demon in our country because it money dictates our ability to live a healthy life. To gain an education. Nobody wants you to pay for their t.v or cable.

America is trying to change right now. Priorities are being moved and I'm glad. You don't like it and that is a shame but it won't stop me from trying to change it. You'll be covered as well and I don't mind it one bit. Even if you don't work a day in your life.

This is a poor me thread, who do you think is "well off" or in other words, who are you picking on. People without wealth should be able to go to a doctor and their kid should be able to get an education, they do this in Germany. I think then the "well off" wouldn't have a magnifying glass on it. It only does because those people who are sick and tired get jealous of people who can live without fear of their illness not being addressed and lack of education for their kids. Solve that and you can have all the pools and homes you desire without anyone picking on you. It's not your stuff people want and I think you know that.
Me, too.

Nope.

 
Old 11-25-2012, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I consider anyone with an air conditioner well off.
Even if they don't have the money to power it or a window to hang it in?
 
Old 11-25-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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These days it's doesn't take much. Our expectations are pretty low.

I would say if you have a job and not on any government welfare programs then you are "well off".
 
Old 11-25-2012, 08:33 AM
 
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These days it's doesn't take much. Our expectations are pretty low.

I would say if you have a job and not on any government welfare programs then you are "well off".
Yet the people on government welfare programs often have far more than those with a job have. Those on welfare programs often have more food, they often have cable television, air conditioning, wear more expensive clothes and drive a new car.
 
Old 11-25-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yet the people on government welfare programs often have far more than those with a job have. Those on welfare programs often have more food, they often have cable television, air conditioning, wear more expensive clothes and drive a new car.
But they don't have the "stigma of being poor" hanging over them do they ?
 
Old 11-25-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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These days it's doesn't take much. Our expectations are pretty low.

I would say if you have a job and not on any government welfare programs then you are "well off".

You'd say a childless burger flipper is well off?????
 
Old 11-25-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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2 cars, a house I own, 2 acres of land with maybe a pond attached.

Whats your idea of "well off." Do you envy others who are 'well off"? I don't. I just want to be "well off", too.
From the Democrat Jealousy and Deception lexicon:

"Rich": You have a job.
"Filthy rich": You have two jobs.
"Obscenely rich": You create jobs.
 
Old 11-25-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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2 cars, a house I own, 2 acres of land with maybe a pond attached.

Whats your idea of "well off." Do you envy others who are 'well off"? I don't. I just want to be "well off", too.
The top 1.93% of the population who have household incomes greater than 250k.
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