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Old 11-25-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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This won't work for three reasons.

1) Since retailers would know of the income raises, consumer prices would rise to match percentage-wise.

2) If everyone instantly made a wage that made them comfortable, even at a minimum, most people would no longer have an encentive(sp) to do better.

3) The problem with many if not most people is not the wage they make, but their spending. People in the US notoriously spend more than they make and have a lot of debt. My debt totals only about $60k. That includes my house and no credits cards.
So you're saying employers use poverty wages as a means to encourage employees to work harder because every job is based on commission?
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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Here's an idea....auction off pay scale.

When an employer advertises a job, simply have an auction!

Have potential employees bid on what wage they would work for.

This will be good for everyone.
Costly, time consuming and silly. IOW, bad idea.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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Only if the agreement is made without distress.
Why would an emotional state dictate whether an agreed upon trade in work for money is fair?
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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If employers won't pay a living wage someone has to pay in order for these workers to survive, and guess who? -- you, me and every other taxpayer.

Like Walmart,

"Walmart's employees receive $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. They are also the top recipients of Medicaid in numerous states. Walmart fails to provide a livable wage and decent healthcare benefits, costing U.S. taxpayers an annual average of $1.02 billion in healthcare costs.

This direct public subsidy is being given to offset the failures of an international corporate giant.... Wal-Mart workers’ reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company.

In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public."

Daily Kos: Walmart: America's real 'Welfare Queen'
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If employers won't pay a living wage someone has to pay in order for these workers to survive, and guess who? -- you, me and every other taxpayer.

Like Walmart,

"Walmart's employees receive $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. They are also the top recipients of Medicaid in numerous states. Walmart fails to provide a livable wage and decent healthcare benefits, costing U.S. taxpayers an annual average of $1.02 billion in healthcare costs.

This direct public subsidy is being given to offset the failures of an international corporate giant.... Wal-Mart workers’ reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company.

In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public."

Daily Kos: Walmart: America's real 'Welfare Queen'
anyone with a family that takes a min wage, low skilled job and calls it a career and tries to raise a family on it turns to the government rather than better themselves.

Don't blame Walmart for that.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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anyone with a family that takes a min wage, low skilled job and calls it a career and tries to raise a family on it turns to the government rather than better themselves.

Don't blame Walmart for that.
I'm sure there are Walmart employees going to college while they work at Walmart, but squeezing classes in while you are working an exhausting job, and taking care of a family, it is going to take many years to get a college degree. And no doubt many of them work two jobs, making advancement next to impossible. Or maybe they are actually not bright enough to undertake higher education? Or too old? What then? They should not be able to earn a living wage? Some people really are trapped in their situations -- have you ever thought of that? And even then, there are many many college graduates these days who cannot get jobs.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm sure there are Walmart employees going to college while they work at Walmart, but squeezing classes in while you are working an exhausting job, and taking care of a family, it is going to take many years to get a college degree. And no doubt many of them work two jobs, making advancement next to impossible. Or maybe they are actually not bright enough to undertake higher education? Or too old? What then? They should not be able to earn a living wage? Some people really are trapped in their situations -- have you ever thought of that? And even then, there are many many college graduates these days who cannot get jobs.
You can't make Walmart do anything. They are operating within the law.
They operate to make a profit.

Petition the government to nationalize them then and Congress can set whatever rules they want because they would then be the employer.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Here's an idea....auction off pay scale.

When an employer advertises a job, simply have an auction!

Have potential employees bid on what wage they would work for.

This will be good for everyone.



There are many construction jobs that are handled just like that.

Pull up to the warehouse doors and the bidding starts.
You get the scum of the scum, doing the work.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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The cost of doing business in america should be that you can't dump your waste in the rivers, and you have to pay a livable wage.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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There are many construction jobs that are handled just like that.

Pull up to the warehouse doors and the bidding starts.
You get the scum of the scum, doing the work.
The contracts are handled like that. But even then, you'll never see construction workers working for 10 bucks an hour, let alone less than the current minimum wage.
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