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Old 11-25-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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You can't make Walmart do anything. They are operating within the law.
They operate to make a profit.

Petition the government to nationalize them then and Congress can set whatever rules they want because they would then be the employer.
Sometimes they do not operate within the law. One of the things they have had many lawsuits about is the practice of not paying over-time, especially for managers. Managers are apparently the most abused of all. Walmart also settled out of court for contracting with a cleaning company that used illegal immigrants as workers --- there is proof that Walmart executives knew of this. Walmart also receives all kinds of state tax breaks and subsidies---another way taxpayers subsidize Walmart.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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Fair wage is what a perosn is willing to do the job for basically.If too high the job is not given ;if too low its not taken.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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Sometimes they do not operate within the law. One of the things they have had many lawsuits about is the practice of not paying over-time, especially for managers. Managers are apparently the most abused of all. Walmart also settled out of court for contracting with a cleaning company that used illegal immigrants as workers --- there is proof that Walmart executives knew of this. Walmart also receives all kinds of state tax breaks and subsidies---another way taxpayers subsidize Walmart.
The guy at Taco Bell who takes your drive through order should make how much a year ?
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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Minimum wage of $10 hr, in all areas for all work.

This must be enforced regardless of supply and demand issues.

No loopholes, exceptions etc..

And tax the rich higher at the same time.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:44 PM
 
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The auction idea doesn't work because it would return us to the Victorian era and the era of paid slavery. There is not end to how much avaricious employers will exploit workers. What would stop employers from colluding and fixing wages? Just because someone might be desperate enough to work for $1 / hr doesn't mean that a civilized society needs to allow it.

Government would be forced to pick up the tab for everything to allow people to survive. Rich people would have to be taxed to 90 % in order to support all the poor people.

The concept of a living wage is that if someone works very hard for 40 hours a week they should be able to support themselves and their family in something other than abject poverty.
If your skills are only worth $1 an hour, you shouldn't move out of your moms basement.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:45 PM
 
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I think wages should be transparent for consumers to judge. Employers are free to pay minimum wage, but I think consumers should be able to know that.
What difference does that make?

Would you not support a business that pays minimum wage?

That would only hurt employees.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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If employee A is 25% more productive than employee B, can you tell us with a straight face that the value of A's labor is 20 cents more per hour than B's labor?
No. I would bet that its valued at 25% more...unless they're unionized....then, they all get paid equally. That's why American productivity has gone to hell.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:48 PM
 
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If your skills are only worth $1 an hour, you shouldn't move out of your moms basement.
That is assuming that one has a mom's basement in the first place - many do not.

And what kind of a basement will she have if she herself is only earning $1/hr?

Minimum wage must be enforced to avoid a return to feudalism.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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What people don't understand is that when wages go up, the cost of products, produced, transported, wholesales, retailed, and delivered etc., also go up, so you end up at the same place - spending-power wise.

If you want a better standard of living, upgrade your skills, qualifications and marketability. That is the only real way to do it on a large scale, long-term.
Excellent point.

Or, simply live within YOUR means.

Not everyone can go to Disney World!
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:51 PM
 
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A living wage would be enough income to provide shelter, food, and care, for yourself and a small family in the community in which you live, without relying on government assistance. By this standard at least 40 million Americans don't make a living wage since that's the number on foodstamps. A living wage for an individual in some areas of the country might be $18,000. In Los Angeles or New York City a living wage might be $40,000.
Ones need has nothing to do with what your skills can earn, regardless of where you live.
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