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You just proved how efficient unions are at putting people out of work; thank you.
Federally-mandated coercion in this instance is uncalled for; another reason to despise FDR for putting thousands of African-Americans out of work with a single stroke of his pen in 1935.
I assume your reference to FDR is ment to be off color......(joke? ). FDR put a lot of people to work, that's what the New Deal was all about, most people benifineted..my family did. The Depression was hard on everyone, except those with money, who took advantage of the opportunity .Around our small Midwest corn belt many of those family Farms that grew into profit makers because of size with land deals( with the local bank, on the backs of the average farmer who was busted) remain today, those enterprises many hated for what their Grandfathers had done. Many lost, some profited, sort of like today, the rich got richer, the average farmer went out of business. Subsistence farming ( 160 acres) was the norm, it was working, but soon faded away as farmers could not make it alone any more, they needed volume, more land. Today, a lot of this corn growing black soil lands are going at auction for millions., mostly cash deals. Interesting how in tough time there are always a few big winners ( those with leverage, liquidity). In the end all those farmers that remained became lifelong Repuiblicans, while most like us were died in the wool Demacrats .We saw electric lights and flushing tolits a real big deal, washing machines too. Projects like rural electrification , the TVA, and in our area the Coop that also remain today was a good thing FDR did , still do.
It is not just conservatives, but the majority of Americans don't like unions. This distrust or dislike was created by the union movement from it's original start back in the 1930's. Violent strikes against employers, rampant corruption, working with criminal gangs like the Mafia, making American goods too expensive for the average consumer, etc....all these are self-inflicted fatal wounds on the unions. Look how the public sector unions are bankrupting cities and states with their pension plans.
Today Unions only make up about 17 percent of the workforce. Most of that remains in specific industries , alwas was that way. It was the jobs that went away, not the workers.
conservative argument: if your employer doesn't give you the wages or benefits you want, you are free to quit.
conservative argument: unions are bad because you are forced to be a member.
genuine question from me: if you don't want to be a member of a union, aren't you free to quit your job just like anyone else (or never take a union job to begin with) and work for a non-unionized company?
Bet the neocons will ignore your post....I didn't , it's great!
It is not just conservatives, but the majority of Americans don't like unions. This distrust or dislike was created by the union movement from it's original start back in the 1930's. Violent strikes against employers, rampant corruption, working with criminal gangs like the Mafia, making American goods too expensive for the average consumer, etc....all these are self-inflicted fatal wounds on the unions. Look how the public sector unions are bankrupting cities and states with their pension plans.
The unions have destroyed themselves.
You got it all wrong my friend. There was a time when the only defense was to organize. Who brought you the 40 hr week, overtime pay, 5 day work weeks, some health and retirement.....it was the Unions. Its obvious you have been watching way too much TV.
Pension plans ? Thats not what is killing the Post Office, its the law that requires it to fully fund the pensions way before its needed, like in 10 years. Big drain on current revenues and puts the PO. into the red all the time. Great Job though...ever worked there !
It is not just conservatives, but the majority of Americans don't like unions. This distrust or dislike was created by the union movement from it's original start back in the 1930's. Violent strikes against employers, rampant corruption, working with criminal gangs like the Mafia, making American goods too expensive for the average consumer, etc....all these are self-inflicted fatal wounds on the unions. Look how the public sector unions are bankrupting cities and states with their pension plans.
The unions have destroyed themselves.
I think you are projecting your own prejudice and don't really know what the "majority of Americans" think about unions. For instance, when did unions "make goods too expensive" for consumers? Sounds like Fox "News" blaming the "greedy American worker" for outsourcing.
I think you are projecting your own prejudice and don't really know what the "majority of Americans" think about unions. For instance, when did unions "make goods too expensive" for consumers? Sounds like Fox "News" blaming the "greedy American worker" for outsourcing.
There are a lot of people here that do not recall the "Union made label" song, everyone was proud of, along with being made in the USA. Even Walmart; Sam Walton said His company will only sell US made products that was their motto....He would turn in his grave if he knew what has happened to his Company..
You got it all wrong my friend. There was a time when the only defense was to organize. Who brought you the 40 hr week, overtime pay, 5 day work weeks, some health and retirement.....it was the Unions. Its obvious you have been watching way too much TV.
Pension plans ? Thats not what is killing the Post Office, its the law that requires it to fully fund the pensions way before its needed, like in 10 years. Big drain on current revenues and puts the PO. into the red all the time. Great Job though...ever worked there !
Who brought you the 40 hour week, o/t, 5 day work week, some medical plans? The company that employed you, they took the risk, established the business, created the wealth, created the jobs. Unions don't create jobs, don't create wealth.
What is wrong with a fully funded pension plan? Is that not a good thing?
At the end of the day, unions do more harm than good. It is time for them to fade away.
I think you are projecting your own prejudice and don't really know what the "majority of Americans" think about unions. For instance, when did unions "make goods too expensive" for consumers? Sounds like Fox "News" blaming the "greedy American worker" for outsourcing.
The majority of Americans don't join unions on their own and this is why right to work laws are very popular and given the chance, like in WI, people won't pay unions dues.
The cost of a UAW car is 2500 dollars more expensive because of labor costs. That was disclosed when GM went bankrupt. Why do you think the steel industry, rubber industry and car industry went out of business or moved the factories overseas? What was their single biggest cost? Union Labor.
The majority of Americans don't join unions on their own and this is why right to work laws are very popular and given the chance, like in WI, people won't pay unions dues.
The cost of a UAW car is 2500 dollars more expensive because of labor costs. That was disclosed when GM went bankrupt. Why do you think the steel industry, rubber industry and car industry went out of business or moved the factories overseas? What was their single biggest cost? Union Labor.
** Again, a presumption on your part - you really need more than this. How do you freakin' know that Americans don't want to join unions? You are just projecting your own attitudes into others - try to learn the difference.
** In union shops my dues were dirt cheap and I benefited - and I worked both.
** No union drove corporations anywhere. That is FoxSpeak. They went overseas to take advantage of indentured slave labor which communist China was willing to provide. Any American company should incorporate a living wage into its business plan.
If going to a foreign country it should be to sell a product in that market.
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Bet the neocons will ignore your post
....I didn't , it's great!
