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Old 12-25-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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very concerning article but it really did more to support the myths in the article I gave

not sure I agree. your article states between 6 and 20% of women would seek out an illegal abortion is they had to. that right there tells you a need for safe legal abortions. the article also said that illegal abortion deaths are marginally different than deaths from legal abortions. I doubt that, legal abortions are preformed by doctors in clean and sterile surroundings. that wasn't always the case when abortion was illegal.

one, one thousand or ten thousand lives at stake, what ever the number no woman should have to go underground to get an abortion
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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not sure I agree. your article states between 6 and 20% of women would seek out an illegal abortion is they had to. that right there tells you a need for safe legal abortions. the article also said that illegal abortion deaths are marginally different than deaths from legal abortions. I doubt that, legal abortions are preformed by doctors in clean and sterile surroundings. that wasn't always the case when abortion was illegal.

one, one thousand or ten thousand lives at stake, what ever the number no woman should have to go underground to get an abortion
But it is clear in the article I posted that death rates from illegal abortions were no higher than legal. You understand woman do die from legal abortions and can effect them mentally forever. Do these abortion clinics offer free counseling after abortions?
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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But it is clear in the article I posted that death rates from illegal abortions were no higher than legal. You understand woman do die from legal abortions and can effect them mentally forever. Do these abortion clinics offer free counseling after abortions?
And being forced to go through an unwanted pregnancy and birth won't effect them mentally forever?

How about putting it up for adoption?

Do these women get free counseling afterward?
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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But it is clear in the article I posted that death rates from illegal abortions were no higher than legal. You understand woman do die from legal abortions and can effect them mentally forever. Do these abortion clinics offer free counseling after abortions?

I would disagree with you that the article is "clear" I think it has inaccuracies and is biased.

with any surgery there is a risk of death. there are over a million abortions preformed every year. in 2008 from what I found, there were 12 deaths.

there are women who mentally have a difficult time after an abortion but more woman have no problem at all.

abortion clinics talk to their clients through out the process. does a woman who has a hysterectomy and depressed afterwards she will never have children again, go to the doctor that preforms it for counseling?
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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And being forced to go through an unwanted pregnancy and birth won't effect them mentally forever?

How about putting it up for adoption?

Do these women get free counseling afterward?
Riddle me this? Why would they need counseling for letting the baby live when they don't for murdering it? Why is letting it live worse than killing it?
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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Riddle me this? Why would they need counseling for letting the baby live when they don't for murdering it? Why is letting it live worse than killing it?
many women who give their child up for adoption feel guilty about it their whole life.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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And being forced to go through an unwanted pregnancy and birth won't effect them mentally forever?

How about putting it up for adoption?

Do these women get free counseling afterward?
thanks for asking annie . I work with an adoption agency that does just that. counseling before and as long after as they need.
This was why I inquire at these abortion clinics do they offer counseling for these woman? I can not tell on planned parent hood site if they do or do not offer counseling
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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many women who give their child up for adoption feel guilty about it their whole life.
yes they can and that is why counseling is a must for adoption
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Riddle me this? Why would they need counseling for letting the baby live when they don't for murdering it? Why is letting it live worse than killing it?
Novel thought......let the woman decide which option will be less traumatizing for HER.....not YOU.

Not being allowed to make your own choice is traumatizing in itself.

How about the next time you are faced with a life altering decision, I get to make that decison for you?
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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many women who give their child up for adoption feel guilty about it their whole life.
But they wouldn't feel guilty about killing the baby? I find that puzzling. A live baby is a lot less to feel guilty about than a dead one.
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