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Like increasing the CPS budget? Accessible health care for children? Not whining about subsidized school lunches and food stamps? Stuff like that?
The only whining I'm seeing is women so proudly proclaiming they'd break any abortion laws then turning around and whining about back alley abortion deaths.
I'm talking laws against murder. At some point in development that fetus is unquestionably a baby, and a woman's right to her body has to be weighed with the baby's right to life.
When a human being is dead, he's just dead and he doesn't miss being alive, he can't.
But we protect life anyway.
"we" can't do anything about a life that isn't here yet. And while the idea of "when you're dead you're dead" is true the person may know they are going to die before they do. Not always of course, but there was a mark left on the world and others are going to feel it. With a pregnancy it's the woman who feels the loss of the future they thought they had.
The only whining I'm seeing is women so proudly proclaiming they'd break any abortion laws then turning around and whining about back alley abortion deaths.
I'm talking laws against murder. At some point in development that fetus is unquestionably a baby, and a woman's right to her body has to be weighed with the baby's right to life.
Yes. But at no point will anyone else have the power to do anything though except the pregnant woman. It's just a fact you can't get around no matter how much you would like to. If we start there the whole debate about abortion get's clearer.
"we" can't do anything about a life that isn't here yet. And while the idea of "when you're dead you're dead" is true the person may know they are going to die before they do. Not always of course, but there was a mark left on the world and others are going to feel it. With a pregnancy it's the woman who feels the loss of the future they thought they had.
We don't reason like that. A life is a life no matter who'd miss him. a murdered John Doe with no one missing him still deserves to be prosecuted.
It's 100% clear that at some point in development the fetus has everything to be called a human life. It's as "alive" as a newborn. Aborting that fetus is therefore no different than strangling a newborn. We must rationally determine where the line is to be drawn so abortion never occurs at that stage unless the mother's life is at risk.
The only whining I'm seeing is women so proudly proclaiming they'd break any abortion laws then turning around and whining about back alley abortion deaths.
Bizarre. I can quite honestly say I have never heard that before. I have however heard people state that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the reality is that people will seek out back street abortions.
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I'm talking laws against murder. At some point in development that fetus is unquestionably a baby, and a woman's right to her body has to be weighed with the baby's right to life.
It is already, perhaps you need to familiarize yourself with Roe v. Wade.
Yes. But at no point will anyone else have the power to do anything though except the pregnant woman. It's just a fact you can't get around no matter how much you would like to. If we start there the whole debate about abortion get's clearer.
We can pass laws. In reality no one has power to stop a murderer but the murderer but laws do make these things rarer.
Bizarre. I can quite honestly say I have never heard that before. I have however heard people state that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the reality is that people will seek out back street abortions.
Just read this thread. Plenty of women saying that laws will be broken if abortion laws are tightened. At the same asking us if we want dead women from back alley abortions.
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It is already, perhaps you need to familiarize yourself with Roe v. Wade.
The laws are getting stricter on a state by state level. Personally, I'd think in light of viable babies being born at the 20-21st week, making abortion illegal at the 15th week unless it's a medical necessity for the life of the mother.
We can pass laws. In reality no one has power to stop a murderer but the murderer but laws do make these things rarer.
Pass laws to what? You still won't have any power, you will just make criminals out of even more people and make life increasingly harder for those who do manage to be born. Focus on the born, not the preborn. Many of which won't be born anyway due to natural causes, and the general public doesn't seem to be crying about that.
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