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Old 12-19-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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We experienced 9/11, and one of the solutions was to randomly place armed people on each flight to deter subsequent hijackings.

Why is arming teachers and randomly placing them throughout schools in a district and properly training them in gun use and basic tactics (basically, half-cop/half-teacher) considered so extreme? I think randomly arming teachers might not be too good of idea, but to create a new type of cop: half teacher/half cop is certainly something to think about.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:30 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Air Marshalls have one job...to ensure the safe flight of the airplane.
That's all they have to do.

Teachers have one job...to teach the kids.
Not teach the kids and play cops.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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If you have to ask, I sincerely hope you have no children and don't plan on any, either.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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Teachers could snap at any moment and start shooting students.

Air marshals are perfect human beings.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Air marshalls also have the luxury to operate in a highly secure surroundings. And the luxury to be one of the crowd, as opposed to the teacher. Arming the teacher can only work, if teacher isn't a sitting duck with gun carefully stowed away. And it just might make the day for a few students if they manage to steal one.

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Teachers could snap at any moment and start shooting students.
Air marshals are perfect human beings.
So are disgruntled teachers.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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Teachers could snap at any moment and start shooting students.

Air marshals are perfect human beings.
Zing!

(Actually, that's the sound of your irony going right over the gun fondlers' heads. )
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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If you have to ask, I sincerely hope you have no children and don't plan on any, either.
The best responses are always personal attacks.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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Teachers are there to teach air marshals are there to be air marshals. Now if you were talking about school resource officers and expanding that program I would be 100% with you since they are basically the school version of air marshals.

In essence arming teachers in schools is not akin to arming flight marshals on planes, it would be more like arming stewardesses.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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If you have to ask, I sincerely hope you have no children and don't plan on any, either.
If someone doesn't know the difference between an air marshal and a teacher, their teacher wasn't teaching
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake Area
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Air Marshalls have one job...to ensure the safe flight of the airplane.
That's all they have to do.

Teachers have one job...to teach the kids.
Not teach the kids and play cops.
Winner winner chicken dinner!

My dad spent 40 years in a public high school, the last 15 years as an assistant principal. My mom is still teaching in a kindergarten classroom. Both shake their heads at the idea of arming teachers and administrators. Teaching is already one of the most stressful jobs, arming them is a recipe for tragedy with no guarantee it'll stop the next mass school shooting. Furthermore, with budget cuts and low test scores, the last thing we need to be doing is diverting teachers from lesson planning, grading, graduate studies in order to provide them the extensive training (including yearly refresher courses) on gun safety/crisis management/range practice/mental health reviews/etc.
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