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Old 12-31-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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I find it personally insulting that I should owe blacks anything - particularly money - because white people in the past treated them poorly. My dad's family was not in this country at all until 1870, and that was the Scottish bunch, who were denied jobs because people confused them with Irish. And then in 1905, the Swiss side came over, and got hell during both world wars because the German sounding surname wasn't changed at Ellis Island. Got called names and denied jobs - nice welcome there! Mom's side has been around since whenever the Cherokee and the Shawnee came over, plus the Mayflower, and on and on. Only one small section of her family owned slaves at all. The rest were poor and broke and some of them were Native Americans. But hey, I'm white, so apparently I must pay for the misdeeds of Americans who were involved in the slave trade and who were here doing nasty things long before my dad's ancestors even came here. Ridiculous. If we're going to do reparations, I want paid for the lost jobs of my ancestors here. My great-grandparents starved because they looked Irish or had a German name, and were called Nazis, when they were not. I also want compensated for that whole Trail of Tears mess and the relocation of the Shawnee. I am entitled! I was wronged! I deserve compensation!

I haven't heard much about white guilt in college, but I've heard tons about it among people my age, who seem to love talking about it, particularly black people, and the gay, lesbian, bisexual crowd.

I'm pretty sure I can go back into the family tree and find that my ancestors somewhere were slaves, the Greeks had slaves, the Romans had them, Africans had them, Indians had them, Egyptians had them. Later on there were serfs who had no opportunity. Every civilization has had them. Even Native Americans here in the USA had slaves, they would go and capture people from other tribes and turn them into slaves.

It is the attitude that whitey owes blackfolk something that will derail any race discussion in this country. I don't think racism is gone - but stuff like affirmative action, forcing people with money to have their children attend schools with people who have kids with awful habits, and whining about reparations is going to go nowhere and will set the whole thing back.
First of all:

1) When did I talking about Black people having the "you owe me" attitude?
2) If your ancestors had nothing to do with slavery, then you have nothing to worry about.
3) I was talking about the arrogant attitude of another person.
4) I know other people had slaves, but Black people are in America NOW because of the Trans-Atlantic slavery. This "get over it" attitude, I don't see this attitude pushed on Jewish people in regards to the Holocaust.

Generally, your post has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Nope, never lectured about that during my entire time in college.
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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I never got the "white guilt" lectures in college. A bit of a liberal slant from some professors, of course. However, I never heard the "blame the White man" line in college.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: New York City
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That's a story you see a lot of on the internet. Someone talking about their socialist liberal homosexual muslim professor blaming white people for everything and telling white students they should feel guilty for their ancestors' actions.
Nothing about white-guilt, but professors pointed out biases that held unwittingly. That’s what education is.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: USA
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I was never taught this crap myself but I've had to argue with some people who thought this way (btw, they were fresh graduates from the same small liberal arts college, go figure). Goes to show you can be on the correct side of the spectrum and still be a complete moron.
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