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Old 12-31-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: The Mini-Apple
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Nope for me as well. I never heard the subject even mentioned until the rise of right-wing radio shows. That's also where I first heard that college professors are supposedly indoctrinating students to be good little liberals.

Neither happened in my college career with included Undergrad and Grad School.
They are. Either you were too dumb to see/hear it or you didn't go to college.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: southern california
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actually the indocrination starts in k12, college would be much too late.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Not in engineering school (I don't recall it ever being brought up) but when I went back to get my master of arts in teaching, BIG TIME. I had an entire class on racism and sexism and racism was a common theme in several other classes.
I think education classes are probably the worst for this kind of thing. Try being black and arguing with some middle age white professor that, yes indeed you should correct a minority student's misspoken English because you aren't doing them any favors for their future job prospects if you don't, and she's telling you that it means you don't really understand what it's like to be black. I about fell on the floor and she and I had an extremely heated discussion after class. In the teacher education programs' defense, teachers do need to understand where their kids are coming from in order to effectively reach them.

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As my grandmother used to say "You cannot make up for the sins of the past. All you can do is start from today and to it right.". You do not make up for past discrimination with reverse discrimination today. All you do is create bitterness going the other way.
Maybe my favorite quote of all time:

We do the best we can with what we know, and when we know better, we do better - Maya Angelou
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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I went to UT-Austin in the PC-heavy mid-1990s, and it was never suggested to me by any professor that I should feel guilty for being white. I was in the College of Liberal Arts too so if anyone was likely to hear something like that, it was me.
Hook 'em. In computer science many of my professors were non-white. I don't remember ever discussing race. Before you say "Oh that's Texas" UT-Austin is a liberal campus in a very liberal city...
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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For me, the university experience was pretty much one class after another of White, liberal professors and liberal students gushing over how awesome European/American civilization is/was.

Even when I was a self-described liberal, I had to agree. For all our flaws and crimes (if you can attribute crimes to a group collected on the basis of skin pigmentation), we are pretty damn great.

I studied Archaeology, Anthropology, Latin, Greek, Old English, Old Norse.

I suppose I might have gotten a different message had I taken Latin-American Studies/African-American Studies/Women's Studies type classes. People on the hard Right seem to think that those departments comprise the totality of the modern American university curriculum.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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No. Not at all.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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It's quite ridiculous, some of this PC anti-white rubbish.

The white man should be looked up to for getting the world organised, not the other way around.

I guess that would be considered a racist statement by some, but it's just calling a spade a spade IMO

Some people are going to regard your statement as racist. This is why. Non-White peoples. especially Blacks, have been talked down to, and mistreated for a long time, so there is a feeling of "you just say that because you look down on us. why should we listen?"

You saying all of this is going to make people resist even more. It is your arrogant attitude that is going to turn people off, that is going to anger people. No one wants someone coming to them with a hubris, with a racial arrogance. It is going to make people hate you more, and not look up to you.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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You went to college????????????
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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They are. Either you were too dumb to see/hear it or you didn't go to college.
Wow, nice, lol. Way to support your argument.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Nope for me as well. I never heard the subject even mentioned until the rise of right-wing radio shows. That's also where I first heard that college professors are supposedly indoctrinating students to be good little liberals.

Neither happened in my college career with included Undergrad and Grad School.
So, do you think right wing radio invented it?
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