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Old 01-05-2013, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by old_cold View Post
Ignore it....concentrate on your own life.
Trust me, it won't hurt a bit.
My neighbor eats okra.....makes me shudder just to think about it.....so I don't.
And good bye....this one just isn't worth rehashing over and over and over.
But too many people, like Western Pilgrim and Harrier, severely lack your common sense approach to life.

 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:27 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Originally Posted by stargazzer View Post
Man and animals do not have the same immunity systems( hint...man has a consciousness which helps him distinguish gender, and also is not entirely instinctive anymore.

I'm not fighting the individual gay, the individual gay is an individual. The movement however as Ive been explaining and with reason, is my focus of attention.
Just because one can distinguish gender, does not mean one can choose who one is attrqcted to. I see no reason to deny us equal marriage, I have seen no proof from anyone here why ssm will cause a mortal threat to our civilization, none, zilch. Icky does not count, the bible does not count either, your morals are yours and yours alone, so they do not count.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:29 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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I don't believe in Christianity on any level. I only believe in the Torah.

now
gay "marriage" is one of the worst sins and led to the flood in the time of Noach. see birashias rabbah 26-9 and Chullin 92B
Try fishing some more. Gays marrying caused the flood in the time of Noah. LOL
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
Huh? What you said was that gay people outnumber straight people in Africa - that Africa has more gay people than it does straight people.


Perhaps I should give you a break though. English is clearly not your native language.
you don't know how to read then
show me the quote.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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the level of ignorance on this thread is really a bit astounding! Sexual Orientation is NOT A CHOICE. Sorry for raising my voice here, but that fact is so obvious that I have a hard time understanding why people fail to believe it. Our world is already massivly overpopulated with humans, to the point that other species are being crowded out. . . . .I do believe that "god" has a "master plan", and that what is is what should be. . . . . .even if that means that we destroy ourselves, and that the planet has "another chance" to create a peaceful and loving world.
people have been spouting this nonsense since the 1700s, they were wrong then and wrong now. The real problem is the lack of young people in much of the world.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Do you really know what the gay 'movement' is? I'm gay, live in one of the biggest gay populations on the planet and I still have no clue what the movement is!

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Originally Posted by stargazzer View Post
Man and animals do not have the same immunity systems( hint...man has a consciousness which helps him distinguish gender, and also is not entirely instinctive anymore.

I'm not fighting the individual gay, the individual gay is an individual. The movement however as Ive been explaining and with reason, is my focus of attention.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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Ok, if you weren't so serious, that would be the absolute funniest post I've seen today. I've seen a lot of intolerance against the opinion of nature, in the form of guns, bombs, fists, flaming torches, and other acts of violence, and you want to put the "bigotry of homosexuality" at that level? You should be ashamed of yourself. The sad part is that you won't be.
Hold on....who said homosexuality is not an act in violation. Regardless of consent, digression is maintained in a refusal to promote and argues against, the intended well being and progress, of another.

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Old 01-05-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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Please look up the Constitution in the current century. You are in fact free to choose no religion, that's part of the free exercise of religion. You can't have freedom of religion unless you also have the freedom to not be religious. It's a logical fallacy otherwise: To say that one has freedom of religion but must choose a religion then presupposes that one must pick something that qualifies as a religion, which means a list of those religions that qualify as religions must be provided, but if any religions are excluded then it would prevent the free exercise of religion, and you truly don't have freedom of religion (which isn't technically the issue, but prevention of the free exercise of religion in legal and Constitutional terms IS the issue, since that PROVIDES "Freedom of Religion."

I do so love my Constitution.
The Constitution is worthless outside of it's original context. You want to change it make amendments.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Here's Part II of the article posted here (closed thread).

"This disturbing pattern of hostility to religious freedom should leave little doubt as to the consequences of broader enactment of homosexual marriage: it can only mean fewer freedoms for men and women of religious conviction ... As the fertility specialist in California, the photographer in New Mexico, the justices of the peace in Massachusetts could all testify, when anti-anti-homosexual principles triumph, Americans asked to engage in acts that would violate their conscience by implying acceptance or endorsement of homosexual acts cannot even respond with that precious shred of self-preserving liberty that Herman Melville’s Bartleby the Scrivener claims with the simple words, 'I prefer not to.'”

Though profoundly unwise, our laws already permit homosexuals to do whatever they want, even to call themselves "married" if they like. But that's not what the same-sex "marriage" crusade is about. As this article clearly demonstrates, same-sex "marriage" is about the rest of us, about crushing dissent, about eliminating any and all public space in which homosexuality is not approved. You. Must. Approve.
My goodness. I bet if you were an adult during the 1960s, you would have been against Blacks securing civil rights, since many people were opposed to such rights, based on religious convictions gathered from the Bible. Back then opposition to civil rights laws, especially in the South, were much more louder and violent than today's opposition to same sex marriage. Many whites must have felt they were getting their liberties shredded. It's 2013 now. Do you stand for abolishing civil rights laws, so we can go back to separation of the races in public spaces?
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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How do you exercise that which you do not have????
I have no clue what you just asked?

I said constitutionally a state can (even after the 14th amendment) require everyone to choose a religion as long as the state doesn't put demands on any religion and allows people to change religions. In other words I think the state has the power to ban public expression of atheism. (The first amendment only means freedom of political speech)


this does not mean I think it would be a good policy.
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