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1. Willful murder.
2. The sin of Sodom.
3. Oppressing the poor.
4. Defrauding working men of their just wages.
All of these are sadly prevalent in the United States, but only one of these is threatening to become institutionalized today: the sin of Sodom, in the form of same-sex "marriage".
Same-sex "marriage" is not a mere trifle. If institutionalized it will turn our civilization inside-out. Although abortion (i.e., "willful murder") is arguably a greater evil, most citizens can at least avoid complicity. Not so with same-sex "marriage". Everyone from county clerks to school teachers, from insurance salesmen to commercial printers, from caterers to photographers, from journalists to secretaries, from social workers to health care professionals, etc. etc. ad infinitum, will be forced - on pain of legal sanctions, loss of employment, or social marginalization - to confess that unmarried people are married, that lies are truth, that unreality is reality; and to cooperate with and facilitate the whole damnable charade. This is the textbook definition of tyranny. Men and women of conscience, who refuse to lie or pretend for anyone, will eventually be deprived of their livelihoods.
"How Same-Sex 'Marriage' Suffocates Freedom" by Bryce Christensen outlines the process:
"For those trying to enshrine the notion of same-sex 'marriage' in law are not primarily trying to enlarge the freedom of homosexuals; they are primarily striving to diminish the freedom of skeptics who would deny that the union of homosexuals is—or can ever be—a legitimate marriage. The aim of those trying to inscribe the novelty of homosexual marriage in law is actually that of making an outlaw out of anyone who would question the moral substance of this new social construct and the sexual behaviors it legitimates."
Do you love your country? If you do, you will do everything in your power to oppose the insidious totalitarian trojan horse (no pun intended) of same-sex "marriage". And by that I mean insisting that government acknowledge the metaphysical reality of marriage as it actually exists - the union of one man and one woman established for the procreation of children, the mutual help of spouses, and the prevention of concupiscence.
Marriage was not established for procreation. I do love my country though and with that love I accept everyone who loves another regardless of their sex. You can judge all you want but it doesn't make you right.
Section 2 violates state's rights. It prohibits states from leglislating their on policy concerning marriage.
Is that too difficult for you to understand?
You can't possibly be serious, can you? If so, please put on your glass and re-read it.
Section 2 of DOMA in no way whatsoever prohibits states from legislating their own policy concerning marriage (gay or straight marriage). Section 2 of DOMA says that no state is required to recognize a gay marriage performed in any other state. It doesn't speak at all to how any state legislates marriage in any way. It just makes it clear that if one state makes gay marriage legal, no other state is required to recognize and give legal standing to that gay marriage.
Section 2 of DOMA affirms and supports state's rights and a state's sovereignty when it comes to the legislation and administration of marriages.
And again, you're just making a claim. You're not supporting or explaining it at all.
Section 3 violates state's rights. It prohibits states from leglislating their on policy concerning marriage.
Is that too difficult for you to understand?
I now see that you've edited your post (you changed the section you believe violates state's rights and the 10th Amendment from section 2 to section 3).
Section 3 of DOMA in no way whatsoever prohibits states from legislating their own policy concerning marriage (gay or straight marriage). Section 3 of DOMA doesn't apply to states at all. Section 3 says that the Federal Government can only consider heterosexual couples as married. It says that only married heterosexual couples qualify for the Federal benefits of marriage - it bans gay couples from those Federal benefits, even if the gay couple is legally married in their home state. It says nothing about what a state can or can't do when it come to gay marriage (or a marriage of any kind) or state marriage rights and benefits.
Section 3 is the unconstitutional section because it treats gay people unequally under the law.
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Since homosexual couples cannot procreate, a contract for marriage that merges property rights for non-existent progeny is a nullity. A civil union and a bequest via will would better accomplish a merger of property of the parties to the compact.
What folks are not focusing on is that it is not "love" nor "rights" but allowable sexual gratification.
Assuming that all sexual gratification is none of the government's business, to license or proscribe, what about compelling other people to pay taxes that are funneled to benefit those that are abhorrent to one's personal value system?
Should a vegetarian underwrite a butcher shop? Should one who keeps kosher fund swine herders?
Consider that if all so-called "marriage" tax and socialist benefits were eliminated, would it still matter? Would homosexuals seek marriage?
Perhaps the remedy is simply to dismantle the "voluntary" socialist system. Oh - you were told it was mandatory? Tsk, tsk.
How about sterile and senior citizen couples who marry? Procreation is not required of marriage, that is the bottom line, nor is religion. The taxes you so bitterly complain about are paid into by gay people too. since we are paying taxes and you are getting the benefits, it is you getting special rights and special treatment. Equality is for everyone, not just straight people.
it's freedom of religion not freedom from religion. I would have no problem (constitutionally) if the government mandates that every single person become religious as long as every individual has the option of what religion.
I do not believe in god, any god, why should I be forced to believe in a religion. We have the freedom to not believe too. It is not a must to believe in a god or have religion. You are acting crazy as usual.
All those things are voluntary reactions by people like you who obsess over something that would affect your life in no way if you didn't know about it.
It is nothing but the idea of it that bothers you ......there is no actual effect.
I will be the first to obsess over what is true and what we are told is now officially true.
Accepting both heterosexuality and homosexuality as natural and normal requires what Orwell referred to as double-think.
Double-think dictates that I must accept that what is obviously true is in fact true, but I must also accept that what stands in direct contrast to that belief is also true.
I know that two plus two equals four and will not accept that it also equals five.
I will not accept that it equals anything except four.
And all the same were possible repercussions to allowing interracial marriage, something that likewise was vehemently opposed by many "good religious folk" and described as an act against nature and God's will.
So freaking what. Boo hoo.
Interracial marriage is easy to defend since a man and a woman of any mixture of races can created children together.
Nature obviously intended men and women of different races to create children, and for this reason their unions are in harmony with nature.
Homosexual unions create no children, are not in harmony with nature and are in fact opposed to nature's design.
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