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Old 01-14-2013, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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1) America spends less per student than most western nations, not more.

2) It is mostly a lack of a centralized education plan. EVERY successful country has a national education plan which keeps students on a hard course towards higher education while in the US we have 50 individual education systems and each state usually has hundreds of individual districts which make up their own standards. That means some districts, almost always in blue states, have great educational systems while others, almost always in red states, as worthless garbage filled with religious nonsense but hardly any science.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Expenditure per student, primary (% of GDP per capita) | Data | Table

A real look on education spending by each country as a percentage of GDP. Remember that most European countries also have either free or extremely subsidized university and pre-school education too so not only are they spending more but they're also getting more out of public education.

Why am I not surprised to see the thread creator used deliberately deceptive and just out right false data?
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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Crappy parents who don't care if their kids get an education or not. So the kids have an attitude that nothing they do matters, the world owes them and they can take what they want or someone will give it to them. Then when reality kicks them in the face and then stomps them into the ground we're all supposed to say " We need to spend more money, its our fault they've become such pathetic failures." Remember, the first and greatest educators of a child are their parents or caregivers/guardians. Teachers come in a distant second.
I laugh every time I hear someone praise private education over public education. Its not like they have better teachers or that uniforms make all the difference in the world. No. They have students whose parents care about their education and make them make the effort to get one.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Unions keep in the bad teachers who can't get the kids to learn. The bad teachers , some I have had. The bad ones don't even like kids. They are there for the paycheck. I am sure many here can attest to having bad teachers who should have been fired and the star teachers liked kids , motivated them and got them interested in learning more.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It all starts at home. America is now infested with the Lowest Common Denominatorâ„¢ from other countries....mostly Hispanic and African.....who could not care one wit about personal responsibility or good parenting. Their angle of attack is that of procuring welfare and other handouts by spewing out as many babies as possible. The more babies a person has, the more insulated he/she is from deportation. That's a fact. As these infestors continue to dissolve the American social fabric, we can expect our schools and our students to suffer as well.

Here in the DC area, we looked at quite a few areas to build the house we are currently building. We opted against a few areas because of the prevalence of English As A Second Language funding challenges in schools that certain counties and cities are facing due to unabated immigration.

Such challenges point directly to the ultimate deterioration of communities. We didn't want to have any part in that.
Maybe we should do what the Nazis did when they wanted to get rid of their problem.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The moral fiber is gone as they took out prayer in school and replaced it with the f word.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The moral fiber is gone as they took out prayer in school and replaced it with the f word.
Prayer never belonged in public schools and thankfully wasn't in the public schools in the 80s when I was there. I am sure you wouldn't be saying that if students were doing prayer for religions you disagreed with.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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Secular liberalism.
Yeah. You're answer IS TOTALLY CORRECT considering the schools that beat the pants off American schools are in places like commie-pinko-socialist-weenie EUROPE!
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:33 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Liberals are in charge of the schools, regardless if its in a Conservative state or a Liberal state.
Really, so the people in my state( and school system) who ran for the board of education as republicans are all liberal republicans and you know this as a fact ?
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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We are the only country that practices true universal education, unlike any other country we try to educate everyone. Sometimes to the detriment of our average and high kids, I might add.
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