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Old 01-14-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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I'd say so too. Take a look at this map, which is more than slightly scary:



The following site also has maps by high school graduation rates, bachelors and other educational attainment levels.

Education Levels in the USA



The Bible Belt is apparently filled with uneducated people.
You can't take that map at face value without considering demography. And i'm not sure why you chose the words "Bible Belt" to describe a region as it pertains to education. Being a Christian has ZERO to do with education. What you're seeing in those maps are legacy demographics representing an aging population, many of which who quit school and went to work at the mill or the mines or the factory or the oil field.........just like grandpa did.....just like dad did. While everyone should strive to graduate high school, not everyone should strive for college. Many people just want to work, and states with manufacturing and commodities industries are ripe with people who do just that. Personally, I don't find much wrong with that as long as there's solid work to offer these people.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You can't take that map at face value without considering demography. And i'm not sure why you chose the words "Bible Belt" to describe a region as it pertains to education. Being a Christian has ZERO to do with education. What you're seeing in those maps are legacy demographics representing an aging population, many of which who quit school and went to work at the mill or the mines or the factory or the oil field.........just like grandpa did.....just like dad did. While everyone should strive to graduate high school, not everyone should strive for college. Many people just want to work, and states with manufacturing and commodities industries are ripe with people who do just that. Personally, I don't find much wrong with that as long as there's solid work to offer these people.
Apparently, in the bible belt, keeping Jesus in schools didn't increase education levels.

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The term Bible Belt is used informally by journalists and by its detractors, who suggest that religious conservatives allow their religion to influence politics, science, and education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

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In regards to education, communities in the Bible Belt have gained attention because of censorship within their schools. Books that are commonly taught in other public schools throughout the United States, such as J.D. Salinger’s Catcher in the Rye and Mark Twain’s Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, have been removed from some schools in this region for being sinful and sacrilegious. Additionally, some public schools have banned sex education.
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-bible-belt.htm

Some interesting statistics here.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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To the left maybe just throwing money at something is not always the solution!!!

If America Spends More Than Most Countries Per Student, Then Why Are Its Schools So Bad? - Business Insider



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Liberalism corrupts and Rots all it touches. It does nothing but harm, and is a toxin on humanity.
Not Liberalism, but progressivism (marxism) under the guise of democratic liberalism. Progressives are both liberal and conservative, and they've corrupted our poltical parties. The ranks of the PSS administrators are filled with anti-capitalist anti-American zealots from the sixties. They are trying to change the country from the inside, revisioning history and brainwashing the future generations of this country.

We are now reaping the poisoned fruits of their labor. OWS comes to mind.

Is it any wonder we are in this huge mess, and everyone is confused?
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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It all starts at home. America is now infested with the Lowest Common Denominatorâ„¢ from other countries....mostly Hispanic and African.....who could not care one wit about personal responsibility or good parenting.
Oh, that's not even slightly racist. Not to mention untrue. Gee, I can't for the life of me figure out why other posters have told me you are a white supremacist.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Eugenius
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Everybody is missing the big elephant in the room here: poverty.
The reason private and parochial schools do better? Simple, they don't have to deal with an impoverished population.

I agree that some parents may not care don't about their childrens' schooling, but that is certainly not a majority of parents. Parents want their kids to do well and do better than them, but many just don't have the time and energy to put into it. When a parent or parents have to work long hours or multiple jobs to keep food on the table and the kids have to raise themselves and each other, it's no wonder that schooling and homework and grades are not their top priority.

And look at the maps, the areas with high poverty rates are Surprise! Surprise! where the lowest scores and lowest graduation rates are.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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If you remove the low IQ races from the statistics, America is still near the top in scholastic achievement and standardized test scores. Many of these "Americans" taking these test don't speak English, they speak Spanish or Ebonics.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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If you remove the low IQ races from the statistics, America is still near the top in scholastic achievement and standardized test scores. Many of these "Americans" taking these test don't speak English, they speak Spanish or Ebonics.
the low IQ races ? It's not 1939 anymore....
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Other countries track their students and put them on academic or vocational tracks.
The academic track students take the PISA tests.

The US doesn't track anymore and everyone is considered college material so all students are on an academic track.
To track is to discriminate and that is very un-PC in education today.

One size fits all; everyone is a winner; academic track or bust.
It doesn't work. We have decades of data to prove it too.

That's why our PISA scores are pretty much ignored; internationally we are doing a bad job and it's getting worse each year. Everyone focuses on internal instead comparing one state to another with SAT/ACT scores and HS graduation rates.
Also the numbers entering college are touted while we ignore the other end..how many actually graduate college.

Ignorance of our global standing and refusal to do anything about it in our quest for social equalization is the preferred policy.

So what that we're #36 in Math in global standing. Just send more money to Pearson for testing and that should improve things in education, right ?
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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To the left maybe just throwing money at something is not always the solution!!!

If America Spends More Than Most Countries Per Student, Then Why Are Its Schools So Bad? - Business Insider
Teachers unions, NEA. no local control
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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The moral fiber is gone as they took out prayer in school and replaced it with the f word.
F*** prayer. It doesn't belong in public schools.
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