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Old 05-29-2013, 11:56 PM
 
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That's not a valid argument against the right to bear arms.
You might as well get a sling shot. If the government wants to take you guys out, it can do it, easily, even with your big guns.
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:58 PM
 
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You might as well get a sling shot. If the government wants to take you guys out, it can do it, easily, even with your big guns.
Even more reason to own those guns. The government is too big. Again, you're reinforcing my point.

Besides. The government cannot stop tens of millions of armed citizens. Drones, tanks, jets.

All of those don't stand a chance against millions of armed citizens.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:02 AM
 
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Even more reason to own those guns. The government is too big. Again, you're reinforcing my point.

Besides. The government cannot stop tens of millions of armed citizens. Drones, tanks, jets.

All of those don't stand a chance against millions of armed citizens.


All the government has to do is poison your water supply, release biological or chemical agents and rebels will start dropping like flies, you won't have a chance to do your Rambo routine.

They don't even have to bust out the big guns like napalm, daisy cutters, or nukes.

Your guns are not going to help you. Sorry, you have a false sense of security.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:10 AM
 
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All the government has to do is poison your water supply, release biological or chemical agents and rebels will start dropping like flies, you won't have a chance to do your Rambo routine.

They don't even have to bust out the big guns like napalm, daisy cutters, or nukes.

Your guns are not going to help you. Sorry, you have a false sense of security.
That's great and all but millions of armed citizens can easily over take a government. The only thing that can stop an armed rebellion against a corrupt government is nuclear weapons.

And if the government is confirmed to be using chemical weapons then that would give NATO/UN the right to intervene because chemical weapon use, even in war, breaks geneva convention rules. And as far as water goes there's plenty of sources of water that's not on tap.

But I'm sure you would approve of all of these things because you're likely a statist facist.

Your government that you adore so dearly is not unstoppable.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:13 AM
 
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That's great and all but millions of armed citizens can easily over take a government. The only thing that can stop an armed rebellion against a corrupt government is nuclear weapons.

And if the government is confirmed to be using chemical weapons then that would give NATO/UN the right to intervene because chemical weapon use, even in war, breaks geneva convention rules. And as far as water goes there's plenty of sources of water that's not on tap.

But I'm sure you would approve of all of these things because you're likely a statist facist.

Your government that you adore so dearly is not unstoppable.
When has the UN stood up to the USA government?

You're naive if you think the government wouldn't resort to such measures, and you call me a statist, pfft.

Even a banana republic government isn't afraid of your AR-15 wielding militia.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:16 AM
 
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Besides. The government cannot stop tens of millions of armed citizens.
Well of course it can. Just sow dissension in their ranks and have them turn on each other and do the work of the government for free. Simple as that.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:17 AM
 
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Hey Tom,

I think George Washington would have disagreed...

”A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who would attempt to abuse them, which would include their own Government.” — George Washington on the 2nd Amendment

[URL="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/tom-brokaw-mocks-far-reacing-idea-that-people-need-guns-to-defend-against-government-tyranny/"]Tom Brokaw Mocks ‘Far-Reaching’ Idea That People Need Guns To Defend Against Government Tyranny | Mediaite[/URL]
Tom Brokaw, as do most *******s, misses the point entirely.

It is about deterrence, not comflict. Deterring tyranny is, hopefully, enough to prevent the need to reassert, by force of arms, Liberty, with, of course, the help of many if not most of the Armed Forces who would fight on the side of freedom, not tyranny.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:18 AM
 
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When has the UN stood up to the USA government?

You're naive if you think the government wouldn't resort to such measures, and you call me a statist, pfft.

Even a banana republic government isn't afraid of your AR-15 wielding militia.
When has America used chemical weapons or broke geneva convention rules? None that I'm aware of unless you have undeniable proof. As such, the UN has never been given a reason to. So your point in that regard is moot.

I call you a statist because you're defending the government. If you weren't a fascistic statist then you would stand with me rather than against me.

The government is not unstoppable. Not government is unstoppable. Your mindset is the mindset of a man who is weak. You are a weak man.

And millions of armed citizens isn't a militia. That's an army.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:19 AM
 
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Well of course it can. Just sow dissension in their ranks and have them turn on each other and do the work of the government for free. Simple as that.
Many people despise half of the country, heck they can't even get along in this forum, yet the talk about a united front???
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:20 AM
 
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Well of course it can. Just sow dissension in their ranks and have them turn on each other and do the work of the government for free. Simple as that.
This is getting into redundant war tactics discussion.

You have no proof the US government would be capable of doing that, otherwise the US government would have done that with the Taliban. And the Vietnamese.

This is starting to get silly.

You can't win the argument against the right to bear fire arms. It's engraved into the constitution and clearly states that right was given to us for self defense including defense against the government. Period.

If you want to re-write the second amendment, then Republicans should be given the right to re-write birth right citizenship laws that states children born on US soil become citizens ONLY if the mother and father are also citizens.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, otherwise you're a partisan hack.
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