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Going by your ridiculous criteria, no President in history would have ever had a mandate.
thats fine by me, then no president has ever had a mandate. better to have it that way than truly think that obama has a mandate. the way obama talks, if republicans would have talked that way, liberals would have been screaming on the rooftops to keep what they have.
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Obama doesn't have a mandate at all." His" healthcare agenda( It was Hillary's) had to go through the courts and was snuck around the Constitution. His continued war in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't won him any support from his base although they are quick to forgive. The economy hasn't done well at all. The stock market has done alright but thats with continued bailouts and market manipulation and giveaways to the banks. Scandals plague him and he's had to shut odwn investigations and cover up a mess of bad deals, stupid errors and shady top advisors. Now he's pushing an even more unpopular agenda on guns that has weak support from many democrats.
Who said he has 51% support? How many votes did he really get, closer to 45%. Voter fraud in key swing staets and in the national total. Electronic balloting has mainstreamed that although its been going on since 2000.
The guys a stooge whos just a puppet of the real power brokers. The asterisk president, never vetted and only kept in power by lies and fraud.
No mandate.
Wow. I guess conservatives get to make up their own "facts" now.
1) His healthcare plan is Hillary's plan? Uh, no. Try Romney's plan... ouch that must hurt! LOL!
2) He DID get a majority of the votes, so your 45% number is made up out of thin air.
3) It's ironic that you would claim voter fraud when that is exactly what the right was trying to do before the election. There are many documented cases of it you must have ignored by watching Fox Noise.
4) Weak support for gun control? Have you been paying attention at all? A majority of Americans want stricter gun control (gun show loophole closed, mentally ill restrictions, etc.)
5) "Never vetted"... funny.
6) He never "continued" the war in Iraq... in fact he ENDED it and is ending Afghanistan next year.
You must live in backwards world... all of your "facts" are exactly the opposite of what you claim and provably so!
A new strategy for the GOP - Washington Post
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The House Republicans are in a position to stop, block, and obstruct, but little else. And it does not make sense for them to try to impose their will, when the people are not behind them. Too bad for our children and grandchildren who who have to pay the price, but perhaps that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Seen in this light, Boehner is doing a reasonable job under the circumstances.
First, a) the budget deficit isn’t our biggest problem, unemployment is. b) while the GOP claims to want to cut spending, they haven't identified any meaningful area they want to cut. c) spending cuts in a weak economy further erode employment.
Second, governments are supposed to run deficits in a depressed economy to help support overall demand.
Third, the economic recovery, which has started will nearly completely stabilize the debt:GDP ratio over the next ten years.
Lastly, it does not make sense for the GOP to try to impose their will, because what they want to impose makes no sense.
Wow. I guess conservatives get to make up their own "facts" now.
1) His healthcare plan is Hillary's plan? Uh, no. Try Romney's plan... ouch that must hurt! LOL!
2) He DID get a majority of the votes, so your 45% number is made up out of thin air.
3) It's ironic that you would claim voter fraud when that is exactly what the right was trying to do before the election. There are many documented cases of it you must have ignored by watching Fox Noise.
4) Weak support for gun control? Have you been paying attention at all? A majority of Americans want stricter gun control (gun show loophole closed, mentally ill restrictions, etc.)
5) "Never vetted"... funny.
he got majority of voters yes, but also the majority of voters in his 1st term wanted health care reform, not obamacare.
what gunshow loophole? private sales have always been legal, whether you do them at gun shows or at your own home.
romneys healthcare was exactly that, a state health care plan, which the 10th Amendment allows.
please also remember that if the majority of voters voted for a republican, then liberals would not have been wanting cons to be doing the sort of things the liberals are doing now.
Krauthammer's latest column has drawn a lot of reaction, mostly positive that I have seen. I think he has it about right. Elections have consequences. The GOP still has the US House, but that's all, and even there, won largely on the strength of pop. distribution, or perhaps Gerrymandering. House Dem candidates actually received more votes than R's in 2012. House Democrats got more votes than House Republicans. Yet Boehner says he’s got a mandate?
In essence the people voted for more debt and deficits. Why should house republicans put their head out on the chopping block and oppose an increase in debt? Pres. Obama, you want it, you got it.
The House Republicans are in a position to stop, block, and obstruct, but little else. And it does not make sense for them to try to impose their will, when the people are not behind them. Too bad for our children and grandchildren who who have to pay the price, but perhaps that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Seen in this light, Boehner is doing a reasonable job under the circumstances.
Krauthammer's latest column has drawn a lot of reaction, mostly positive that I have seen. I think he has it about right. Elections have consequences. The GOP still has the US House, but that's all, and even there, won largely on the strength of pop. distribution, or perhaps Gerrymandering. House Dem candidates actually received more votes than R's in 2012. House Democrats got more votes than House Republicans. Yet Boehner says he’s got a mandate?
In essence the people voted for more debt and deficits. Why should house republicans put their head out on the chopping block and oppose an increase in debt? Pres. Obama, you want it, you got it.
The House Republicans are in a position to stop, block, and obstruct, but little else. And it does not make sense for them to try to impose their will, when the people are not behind them. Too bad for our children and grandchildren who who have to pay the price, but perhaps that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Seen in this light, Boehner is doing a reasonable job under the circumstances.
great, then what should happen is that all bills coming forth should be done as it is supposed to be. the house puts the bills forward, the senate confirms it, and the potus signs it. until then the senate should just shut up and stay silent until that happens.
The GOP wasn't voted into anything, which is Krauthammer's point.
And no, they aren't supposed to roll over for Obama, but they're gonna GET rolled anyway, so they may as well not put up much of a fight. That was Krauthammer's point too.
If anything, they were voted OUT... you do realize that Republicans lost seats in both the House and the Senate this election, right?
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