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I see one guy moving a 100 pound projectile and another one cranking a handle almost contiuously. There is tremendous amount of brute strength required to operate that gun beyond even what you see in that picture and everyone of them can perform the duty of any man there.
Look at the number of sit-ups that each gender has to do to get a 100. Both must do 78. When I was in the service (Army) the women actually had a higher standard for sit-ups than men to get a 100. Why? it's very simple. A man's center of gravity is higher in their torso than a woman's, making them have to exert more torque to raise their torsos. Women's center of gravity is lower on their torso, allowing them to exert less torque.
I personaly believe that if a certain job required a certain skill set and that skill set required a certain level of strength, then man or woman, they both should have to show the same level (not percentage) of strength. If they can't, then they don't get the job - and that goes for the men who couldn't do it either.
I think it is BS, and honestly, if I was a woman in the military, I'd be insulted. The news today states they are now going to let women be in combat roles in the military. They want equality, it is only fair to raise the standards and make them equal with the physical standards of the men. If they can't do it, they shouldn't make the cut.
I certainly think anyone capable of meeting the physical requirements should be allowed to serve. The problem comes into play when there are different sets of requirements for men and women. Whatever a given standard of performance may be, no one who is incapable of meeting those requirements should be serving in a position in which those standards are determined to be necessary.
For example, if it's deemed vitally important for a marine to be able to run three miles within twenty-eight minutes, why are there exceptions (whether based on sex or age)? On the other hand, if it really isn't all that important, why should those who are male and/or younger be required to meet a higher standard than others?
When Ed Koch was mayor of NYC, the city was under intense political pressure to hire more female firefighters. Koch weighed-in by saying (I may be slightly off in the quote, but the meaning is clear) “I don’t care what sex a firefighter is, as long as they can carry a 180 pound mayor out of a burning building.”
Whether we're talking about the military, firefighters, or police; there is a set of standards needed to rationally meet the the requirements of the job in regards to personal safety, efficiency, and economy. No applicant who can meet those standards should ever be denied the opportunity. However, those standards should never be dumbed-down for the purpose of political expediency.
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Nonsense. The Army PT test is completely fair. There's no discrimination or advantage for females. The test is based on physiology.
At the end of the day, you're competing with your peer group, and I've seen nothing that indicated that women passed their PT tests easier than males did with the current standards. Besides, a lot more than PT figures into your rating and promotions. You're actually supposed to be competent at more than just the PT test.
So it doesn't matter when a woman can't tote that 86lb backpack on that forced march because the physical conditioning standards are lower? Who is going to carry it? And if nobody carries it, then whose supplies have to be shared for the one who can't pull her weight?
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