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Old 01-24-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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As an example, 46 pushups gets you a 100 if you're a woman, if you're a man 75 gets you 100 score for the pushups if you are 22-26 years old.

Is it so much to ask that women be able to push-up their own weight the same amount as men do the same number of times?

I think if we believe in equality of the genders, we should all support equality of the standards.
You sound like my 17 year old. He's a swimmer. For a boy to get an 'A" time in the exact same event (say 200 Free) - a boy has to be several seconds faster. I'm guessing the theory is that boys are more muscular and stronger?

Anway, it irks him to no end.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:31 PM
 
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Vagina Squad can do the squats.
Squatters rights are squaders mights.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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As an example, 46 pushups gets you a 100 if you're a woman, if you're a man 75 gets you 100 score for the pushups if you are 22-26 years old.

Is it so much to ask that women be able to push-up their own weight the same amount as men do the same number of times?

I think if we believe in equality of the genders, we should all support equality of the standards.

Because socialism.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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As an example, 46 pushups gets you a 100 if you're a woman, if you're a man 75 gets you 100 score for the pushups if you are 22-26 years old.

Is it so much to ask that women be able to push-up their own weight the same amount as men do the same number of times?

I think if we believe in equality of the genders, we should all support equality of the standards.
It's called "pretend".
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Women are less capable that's why.
Isn't that a valid reason why they should not be in combat units?

If a soldier is wounded, they depend on their unit members to evacuate them. If a woman can't carry a wounded man to safety, then she has no business being anywhere near a battlefield, just as a man who can't carry such weight shouldn't be there as well.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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No, but many have debated that we should hold everyone to the same standard. How are women going to fireman carry their injured male counterparts from the front lines if they can't even do pushups?
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Isn't that a valid reason why they should not be in combat units?

If a soldier is wounded, they depend on their unit members to evacuate them. If a woman can't carry a wounded man to safety, then she has no business being anywhere near a battlefield, just as a man who can't carry such weight shouldn't be there as well.
What has that to do with push ups and situps?

Instead of these arbitrary standards make real standards, what are the soldiers expected to do.

If they can do it, they are in, male or female.
If they can't, they're out, male or female.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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What are people going to say when women start putting in for Special Operations (all branches). There are very tough physical requirements to get into these positions. The selection is rigorous. So, are you going to have different physical qualifications for women too? So, I as a man, have to take a 65 lb pack and hump 40 miles in 20 hours, while a woman gets to hump say 40 lbs in 25 hours. Now, how is that going to make for a cohesive unit? It won't. The men in such units are going to look down on the women simply because, "They had it easier in selection."

I can care less about all the liberal whining of, "Too bad. That is the way its going to be." Yes, however what occurs on the other end is, "The way it is going to be." You can't circumvent human nature and human nature has a basic contempt of other people, who get the samething as them, and they didn't have to work as hard. That contempt is going to show up at every single opportunity.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What has that to do with push ups and situps?

Instead of these arbitrary standards make real standards, what are the soldiers expected to do.

If they can do it, they are in, male or female.
If they can't, they're out, male or female.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy
I don't know how much you know about physical conditioning, but you should know that pushups and situps are primary calisthenic exercises that are essential to promoting overall body strength over a spectrum of physical activities.

I am a much slower runner now then I was 15 years a go, however when I began including pushups and situps in my personal workout routine(my coaches always ensured that we did both), I noticed a marked improvement.

These activities need to be part of any comprehensive physical fitness program, and if you don't understand why our servicemen and women in the military need to be fit, then you have much more to learn then why pushups and situps should be a necceary component of training.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I don't know how much you know about physical conditioning, but you should know that pushups and situps are primary calisthenic exercises that are essential to promoting overall body strength over a spectrum of physical activities.
Supposing this is true, promoting is not measuring, is it?
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