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Old 01-23-2013, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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As an example, 46 pushups gets you a 100 if you're a woman, if you're a man 75 gets you 100 score for the pushups if you are 22-26 years old.

Is it so much to ask that women be able to push-up their own weight the same amount as men do the same number of times?

I think if we believe in equality of the genders, we should all support equality of the standards.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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As an example, 46 pushups gets you a 100 if you're a woman, if you're a man 75 gets you 100 score for the pushups if you are 22-26 years old.
Why do the standards change depending on age?

Why aren't people all worked up over that?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Women are less capable that's why.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Why do the standards change depending on age?

Why aren't people all worked up over that?
Probably because you get weaker as you get older. But you still haven't told me why men and women shouldn't have similar standards within similar age categories. Here's a hint: you have no answer.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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Nonsense. The Army PT test is completely fair. There's no discrimination or advantage for females. The test is based on physiology.

At the end of the day, you're competing with your peer group, and I've seen nothing that indicated that women passed their PT tests easier than males did with the current standards. Besides, a lot more than PT figures into your rating and promotions. You're actually supposed to be competent at more than just the PT test.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Probably because you get weaker as you get older.
So?

What's the difference for making an exception based on age and making an exception based on sex?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Mille Fin
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As an example, 46 pushups gets you a 100 if you're a woman, if you're a man 75 gets you 100 score for the pushups if you are 22-26 years old.

Is it so much to ask that women be able to push-up their own weight the same amount as men do the same number of times?

I think if we believe in equality of the genders, we should all support equality of the standards.

''Equality of the standards'' applies to the mental capacity of each gender. They are to be treated equally in terms of mental ability - not physical ability. Obviously!

Has anyone ever debated that men were physically superior to women?

.

What a bizarre observation you've made...
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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So?

What's the difference for making an exception based on age and making an exception based on sex?
You aren't making an exception based on age if you're holding everyone 22-26 years old, regardless of gender to the same standard...because everyone is the same age.

Are women not strong enough or something? Surely, as equals, they can at least do as many pushups as a male.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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You aren't making an exception based on age if you're holding everyone 22-26 years old, regardless of gender to the same standard...because everyone is the same age.

But you surely ARE making an exception if you're not holding people of different ages to the same standard, right?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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''Equality of the standards'' applies to the mental capacity of each gender. They are to be treated equally in terms of mental ability - not physical ability. Obviously!

Has anyone ever debated that men were physically superior to women?

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What a bizarre observation you've made...
No, but many have debated that we should hold everyone to the same standard. How are women going to fireman carry their injured male counterparts from the front lines if they can't even do pushups?
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