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Old 02-15-2013, 07:55 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Yeah, I'll admit it. I feel much safer in England, and France, than I do in the USA. It wouldn't bother me one bit if guns were outlawed.
Why not move to Mexico, its closer and cheaper and they have everything you dream of...
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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I think London and Paris are beckoning to you. Have a nice trip.
Oh, I visit often. But I'm not moving anywhere. I'd much rather live here and work toward a realistic goal of making most guns difficult to obtain and difficult to transfer to others (and expensive); of getting universal background checks and universal registration; of limiting the capacities of magazines; and of making it difficult to carry guns in public.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If you don't believe in universal background checks and you don't want any system that impacts responsible gun owners, what is the solution to take guns out of the hands of criminals.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Not sure where you are getting the 90% but most people I talk to want no part in the universal background check.

We already have enough gun control laws. We need to address the criminal element of the problem, not take away rights from law abiding citizens.

Gun Background Checks Supported By More Than 90 Percent: Poll

Thats what happens when you live in a bubble where everyone agrees with you, and if they don't, you don't want to hear from them.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I bought it in a legal private sale...

And thats that... We cant afford the out of control police state we have now and you "liberal" bootlickers just keep begging for more...

In Missouri they are getting real nutty, they have a bill calling for outright confiscation...

THAT is the goal, every time they pass something they call it "a good first step"...

So my response is NO not one more "reasonable" law...
Again, now that legal private sell requires no background check, no record of sale.

The enforcement we are talking about is if there is a universal system. Then if you bought a gun from someone, private sale, without a background check, you now have an illegal firearm.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I live life like the Constitution intended. Individual liberty, or give me death.
What works for me may not work for you. What works for you, may not work for me.
If you wish to give up your freedom, don't force me to give up mine.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I live life like the Constitution intended. Individual liberty, or give me death.
What works for me may not work for you. What works for you, may not work for me.
If you wish to give up your freedom, don't force me to give up mine.
What freedom is anyone suggesting be taken from you? A background check when you buy a gun does not, in anyway violate your second amendment rights. Limiting the magazine size you can legally buy, does not in anyway violate your second amendment rights.

So what freedom are you talking about?
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Again, now that legal private sell requires no background check, no record of sale.

The enforcement we are talking about is if there is a universal system. Then if you bought a gun from someone, private sale, without a background check, you now have an illegal firearm.
So then your for registration, admit it... Then once their registered you will happily turn in your guns when they ban em "for the children" right???
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So then your for registration, admit it... Then once their registered you will happily turn in your guns when they ban em "for the children" right???
No, because the second step would violate the constitution. The registration, does not.

Understand?
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Again, now that legal private sell requires no background check, no record of sale.

The enforcement we are talking about is if there is a universal system. Then if you bought a gun from someone, private sale, without a background check, you now have an illegal firearm.
That would be most guns. If I sell a gun to my neighbor who could prove I ever owned it or he does now? Who knows I own a gun I bought cash from my paper route money in 1968 at a gunshop am I a criminal now 44 years later ? what if I sold it or traded it 20 years ago? am I a criminal now? aint nobody gonna register anything so dream on, this is America
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