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Old 03-10-2013, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Why would this be the only option? What happened to all the other law enforcement options? Are we assuming they have all been vaporized?

The government can protect our borders from attack. They can not simply decide to target an American citizen.
Immaterial to the point Sen. Paul raises and the parameters Sen Paul established.

AG Holder already wrote the administration preferred to utilize standard law enforcement techniques, which he said could handle the situation.

Sen Paul rejects that answer. He demands to know if the President and the Administration believe they are authorized. Based on long standing U.S. Laws Federal Agents and Military personnel have rules of when they can use deadly force within the United States. So clearly the President and the Administration have the authority.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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And who is the new CIA director?
aNOTHER ISLAMIST LOVER (WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM WHEN HE WAS STATIONED IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND CONVERTED BY AN iam THAT IS ANYTHING BUT A FRIEND TO THE USA) THAT SHOULD BE IN JAIL AND NOT RUNNING THE CIA.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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Drones are just another tool in the toolbox, and no more evil than the other tools.
The argument was it was the only option available. It's a fallacious argument.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:54 PM
 
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Immaterial to the point Sen. Paul raises and the parameters Sen Paul established.

AG Holder already wrote the administration preferred to utilize standard law enforcement techniques, which he said could handle the situation.

Sen Paul rejects that answer. He demands to know if the President and the Administration believe they are authorized. Based on long standing U.S. Laws Federal Agents and Military personnel have rules of when they can use deadly force within the United States. So clearly the President and the Administration have the authority.
You can't make a point off a fallacious argument.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The argument was it was the only option available. It's a fallacious argument.
Nah, it's perfectly valid. Besides, the argument was "if it was the only option available".
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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Nah, it's perfectly valid. Besides, the argument was "if it was the only option available".
No, because that would never be the case. "Well what do you think in this case that will never ever present itself" is a fools argument to address.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No, because that would never be the case. "Well what do you think in this case that will never ever present itself" is a fools argument to address.
Of course it can be the case.

I don't care if they eliminate a terrorist by a sniper or a drone. To you a drone is more evil, and so be it. It is silly to argue which method is more "humane", or more "fair" for the terrorist. I do not care. If they are in process of blowing up a nuke, they should be killed by any means possible.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:24 PM
 
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Of course it can be the case.

I don't care if they eliminate a terrorist by a sniper or a drone. To you a drone is more evil, and so be it. It is silly to argue which method is more "humane", or more "fair" for the terrorist. I do not care. If they are in process of blowing up a nuke, they should be killed by any means possible.
It's irrelevant if you believe it's O.K. It has nothing to do with the scenario posted or the problem with the scenario.

The scenario is non existent. What difference does it matter what someone thinks about a situation that will never present itself?
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's irrelevant if you believe it's O.K. It has nothing to do with the scenario posted or the problem with the scenario.

The scenario is non existent. What difference does it matter what someone thinks about a situation that will never present itself?
Why do you keep talking about something when you think that :

1. Such thing will never happen

2. No one cares what you think about it

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Old 03-11-2013, 06:48 PM
 
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Why do you keep talking about something when you think that :

1. Such thing will never happen

2. No one cares what you think about it
I disagree.

Even the presidents own party is now questioning him.

Lawmakers ask President Barack Obama to detail drone policy - POLITICO.com
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