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Old 04-22-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Well, THAT didn't take long!

Senators Clash Over Boston Suspects At Immigration Hearing | TPM LiveWire

Cuz, you know, Mooslims pertendin' to be Mixicuns, hurr de durr...
Geitner is not the only one who never lets a good crises go to waste.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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sigh....Jahard (pardon the spelling) was 8 when he came to the US.
Yes so it kind of blows the whole assimilation argument out of the water doesn't it? The notion that because some kid can rattle off some rap lyrics and speaks unaccented English means they are just as American as anybody is kind of silly. The Left has crafted this narrative that simply by being in America for a few years poof you're American. Folks do not get rid of their ethnic roots or allegiances so easily.

In this day and age with planes, Skype and Internet it is a lot easier to remain connected to your old country. It is not like the early 20th century where many immigrants would never see their homeland again.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The United States has become a dumping ground for the problem people of many countries, no questions asked. All they have to do is claim political persecution and they get in, no matter what their record. And that isn't even including those who come here illegally and then become criminals. So its about time somebody at least looks at the situation and asks some questions if we're going about this the right way. Maybe not everyone in DC is completely brain dead.
Background checks seem to be the obsession of the left... but not when it comes to immigration? Or voting, or getting home loans, or being hired, or getting government assistance, or health insurance, or......
Two members of Al Queda were allowed to immigrate to the US not that long ago. I believe they claimed political persecution as well.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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Yes.....it's a freaking statue that is a symbol of our nation.
If you want to look for symbols, notice that it's facing Europe, not the Middle East and not Central America.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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We can still hold true to the spirit the statue represents and still be selective in regards to who immigrates here. Allowing people whose values are in direct conflict with American values doesn't make sense.
So now we're going to institute the Thought Police?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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If you want to look for symbols, notice that it's facing Europe, not the Middle East and not Central America.
So?

When the Constitution was written, we still had slavery. When the Statue of Liberty was brought here, America was segregated by race and had discrimination codified into its laws.

Now America's immigration laws and its nondiscrimination and civil rights policies are fair to people who originate from all over the world - not just Europe. And that's the way it should be.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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So now we're going to institute the Thought Police?
I'm not sure what you're getting at? I'm merely saying the USA should not allow people from certain countries or regions to migrate here. In particular regions dominated by Muslims hostile to the USA. Even by doing that you'd still get Muslims coming here from Canada and Europe so don't fear you'll have your diversity.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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So?

When the Constitution was written, we still had slavery. When the Statue of Liberty was brought here, America was segregated by race and had discrimination codified into its laws.

Now America's immigration laws and its nondiscrimination and civil rights policies are fair to people from all over the world - not just Europe. And that's the way it should be.
Fairness is good, stupidity is not good.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well, THAT didn't take long!

Senators Clash Over Boston Suspects At Immigration Hearing | TPM LiveWire

Cuz, you know, Mooslims pertendin' to be Mixicuns, hurr de durr...
figures the ignorant liberals think that imigration only has to do with mexicans


why is it the liberals CONSTANTLY push for amnesty???

liberals constantly want to give the illegals amnesty

9 amnesty bills writen by....ted kennedy....8 passed

you might want to COMPLETE that picture...there have been 9 amnesty bills, 8 PASSED, since 1965....ALL authored by Ted Kennedy

In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’

Ronald Reagan was opposed to illegal immigration and amnesty. In fact, if you do a little research you will find that stopping illegal immigration was part of the Republican National Committee’s platform back then and Ronald Reagab ran on that platform.

The 1986 Immigration Reform Act that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty was known as the Simpson-Massoli bill of 1986. When first drafted, the bill was suppose to make it a criminal offense for aliens who were not authorized to work in the United States a federal criminal act and that it would be a federal crime for employers to hire illegal aliens.

Here's what happened, the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on this bill unless the 1.5 million illegal aliens already thought to be in the country illegally and would qualify for amnesty were rewarded amnesty. (reason being, if these illegal’s were to become U.S. citizens, guess what party they would most likely vote for ? )

So the amnesty part was added on to the bill other wise the Democrats wouldn't sign on. And to muffle the out cry, the American people were told that this amnesty was a one time thing and would never be repeated again.

Well the bill passed both houses of Congress and President Reagan signed the bill. In the inner circles of the administration, Ronald Reagan was to have said he may have made a mistake by signing the bill.
Guess what ?, it wasn't 1.5 million illegal aliens who would have qualified for amnesty. It turns out that over 3 million were rewarded with amnesty, mostly because of the fraud that took place during the amnesty process. Phony rent receipts, phony pay check stubs, liberal judges expunging criminal records of illegal aliens!!!

And after the bill became law, you had Teddy Kennedy watering down the enforcement part of the bill that had to do with enforcing and prosecuting employers who hired illegal aliens.

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Here is Ted Kennedy commenting on the 1965 immigration bill,Quote
“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.” End of Quote.

In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.

In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty...an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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I'm not sure what you're getting at? I'm merely saying the USA should not allow people from certain countries or regions to migrate here. In particular regions dominated by Muslims hostile to the USA. Even by doing that you'd still get Muslims coming here from Canada and Europe so don't fear you'll have your diversity.
You said you didn't want those whose values were hostile to those of America to be allowed into this country. First of all, I didn't know we could discriminate by what we thought people's values were. I also wondered how you would determine who had "anti-American" values and who didn't. Sounds kinda, I dunno, McCarthyistic and Stalinistic to me. Ironic, no?
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