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If say 1 out of 1000 immigrants commits crimes against US citizens like the Two brothers who bombed the Boston marathon, then why not ban immigration if it will save even one life? Why are Americans [liberals] willing to give up their second amendment rights but at the same time are willing to live with the problems that some immigrants cause?
The left uses the same argument against guns, but not against immigrants. If a gun ban will save just one life, if a magazine ban will save just one life, then ban them. Well if by banning immigration it saves one life then why not stop it?
Appreciated, It just seems hypocritical that the left will destroy the constitution to "save a life" but at the same time risk thousands of life's to allow some who would destroy this country into it. What goes on in that liberal mind that makes it so confused?
If say 1 out of 1000 immigrants commits crimes against US citizens like the Two brothers who bombed the Boston marathon, then why not ban immigration if it will save even one life? Why are Americans [liberals] willing to give up their second amendment rights but at the same time are willing to live with the problems that some immigrants cause?
The left uses the same argument against guns, but not against immigrants. If a gun ban will save just one life, if a magazine ban will save just one life, then ban them. Well if by banning immigration it saves one life then why not stop it?
Who the hell said anything about banning guns? What they wanted to do was removed military style weapons with extended clips and limit the rounds to ten. That plus background checks and the T Party attitude of the Right prevailed. They didn't even allow a vote.
Something you should understand. The forebears were smart men. They wrote the second amendment back when there was no standing army. They wrote the second amendment when muskets and dead cannon balls were state-of-the-art weaponry. In addition to that Thomas Jefferson said the entire constitution should be up for review every twenty years or so to keep it adjusted to the new posture of the country. In addition to that the constitution has already been amended 27 times....the first ten being the Bill of Rights. The NRA is nothing but a lobby for gun and ammunitions manufacturers. 90% of Americans wanted background checks and over half wanted the assault weapons banned.
Our government has turned in to fake which in no way speaks up for ordinary citizens. They think they're superior to the people they're supposed to represent and the only thing which might cure some of their madness is term limits and since they're the ones who would have to propose and pass it...forget it. Our government has gone to hell in a handbasket.
If say 1 out of 1000 immigrants commits crimes against US citizens like the Two brothers who bombed the Boston marathon, then why not ban immigration if it will save even one life? Why are Americans [liberals] willing to give up their second amendment rights but at the same time are willing to live with the problems that some immigrants cause?
The left uses the same argument against guns, but not against immigrants. If a gun ban will save just one life, if a magazine ban will save just one life, then ban them. Well if by banning immigration it saves one life then why not stop it?
From what I've seen, the left doesn't want to ban firearms.
4 democrats voted against the background check bill in the senate, some who voted for healthcare reform.
Now, I do know that some want to ban assault rifles, armour piercing bullets, and high capacity magazines.
None of those are gun bans. The assault weapons ban, which I oppose for silly, wouldn't have outlawed guns, hunting rifles are the same gun in most cases, just no pretty flash suppressors.
The opening posters premise has nothing to do with reality
Who the hell said anything about banning guns? What they wanted to do was removed military style weapons with extended clips and limit the rounds to ten. That plus background checks and the T Party attitude of the Right prevailed. They didn't even allow a vote.
Something you should understand. The forebears were smart men. They wrote the second amendment back when there was no standing army. They wrote the second amendment when muskets and dead cannon balls were state-of-the-art weaponry. In addition to that Thomas Jefferson said the entire constitution should be up for review every twenty years or so to keep it adjusted to the new posture of the country. In addition to that the constitution has already been amended 27 times....the first ten being the Bill of Rights. The NRA is nothing but a lobby for gun and ammunitions manufacturers. 90% of Americans wanted background checks and over half wanted the assault weapons banned.
Our government has turned in to fake which in no way speaks up for ordinary citizens. They think they're superior to the people they're supposed to represent and the only thing which might cure some of their madness is term limits and since they're the ones who would have to propose and pass it...forget it. Our government has gone to hell in a handbasket.
The founders could never have seen the internet and the industrialized printing press, and TV and Radio. So by your logic we can not let our police and military be out spoken by such a thing. If you want free speech go stand on a soap box and talk or use a 16th century printing press to print up hand bills, what the founders intended. We must regulate the high capacity media.
Think of it, if one person can spew radical hate speech all over the net reaching thousands no millions of people, this is not what the founders would have wanted. We must regulate the media of today, the rights of the people who will not abuse it is not worth letting even one person who will abuse it do so. So by your logic this is also true.
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