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Old 04-26-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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In other words - you are perfectly fine with the United States becoming North Korea or Nazi Germany.

Absolutely pathetic.

Too many people hate liberty and are perfectly willing to suck up to the authoritarians like lap dogs waiting for their bone, pat on the head, and "good boy".

Some of us would rather lose our lives than live like slaves.

Liberty is more precious than life.
As I recall, a lot of guys gave up their lives for liberty about 240 years ago. It's too bad that so many today don't understand the value of liberty.

 
Old 04-26-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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320 million. Everyone in America is hurt when the government is allowed to violate our constitution. That's much more serious than 2 people killed by a bomb.
Yeah, you were so hurt, yet you still have the freedom to voice your opinion. Again, how many people were physically hurt during the lockdown?
 
Old 04-26-2013, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As I recall, a lot of guys gave up their lives for liberty about 240 years ago. It's too bad that so many today don't understand the value of liberty.
Too bad you dont understand the value of capturing a terrorist, would you prefer them harming more people just so you can pretend like you have more "freedom?"
 
Old 04-26-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Too bad you dont understand the value of capturing a terrorist, would you prefer them harming more people just so you can pretend like you have more "freedom?"
I think the point that is trying to be made is that we can catch the terrorists withOUT giving up our freedoms that were fought for.

As stated, the lock down did not catch the terrorist. It wasn't until some guy came out of his house to have a smoke that the terrorist was caught.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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Well, compared to you...
Way to make your case. I more than once have used the term "common sense" when critiquing the lockdown and you come blathering on here declaring that YOU are some sort of mutt expert and they couldn't continue searching because they were hungry?? As if you knew how many mutts they had on scene and how hungry they were. Then you go on to say I don't know what I'm talking about. You liberals are so far lost it's to the point of pure madness not just the usual mental disease. You claim I'm talking tough when I have done nothing of the sort yet it is YOU who think you know everything. The complete and utter ignorance of your statements proves that this country has no hope until all liberals are purged from government. These liberals in power know that the useful idiots will always come to their defense with no questions asked.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So what would you do if a bunch of police pounded on your door during a lockdown?
If they had a warrant - they could come in.

If they didn't - they would not be permited to enter - and I would use whatever force neccesary to defend the integrity of my home.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think the point that is trying to be made is that we can catch the terrorists withOUT giving up our freedoms that were fought for.

As stated, the lock down did not catch the terrorist. It wasn't until some guy came out of his house to have a smoke that the terrorist was caught.
The lockdown was to keep people in a very small town out of harm's way, it also made it harder for anyone to come and go in the town, thus making it near impossible for the terrorist to escape. Basically the police had a lockdown on roughly 4 sq miles. Personally if I lived in a town with a terrorist on the loose in it, I would of wanted to stay in doors until he was caught.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If they had a warrant - they could come in.

If they didn't - they would not be permited to enter - and I would use whatever force neccesary to defend the integrity of my home.
You would **** your pants if 20 fully armed cops pushed their way into your house. But thanks for the laugh, you really sounded like a true "tough guy."
 
Old 04-26-2013, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You would **** your pants if 20 fully armed cops pushed their way into your house. But thanks for the laugh, you really sounded like a true "tough guy."
Just because you are anti-liberty and anti-constitution does not mean that projecting your willingness to be subjugated by tyranny on to me is valid.

It has nothing to do with being "tough" - it has to do with being an American, defending liberty, and upholding the constitution.

Listen to yourself - you have no problem with those armed cops taking unconstitutional actions.

We are a nation of laws - and you are perfectly willing to allow government officals to run roughshod over them.

Have fun in the concentration camps - sellout.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 06:08 PM
 
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The lockdown was to keep people in a very small town out of harm's way, it also made it harder for anyone to come and go in the town, thus making it near impossible for the terrorist to escape. Basically the police had a lockdown on roughly 4 sq miles. Personally if I lived in a town with a terrorist on the loose in it, I would of wanted to stay in doors until he was caught.
Using your definition for why the lockdown was in place then explain why they were forcing people from their homes at gunpoint. If you wanted to stay indoors the police didn't really seem to care as they frog marched those guys on the video out one by one. You know the video that you apparently never watched. How did forcing people from their homes at gunpoint make it impossible for the terrorist to escape. Actually he was found outside of their perimiter in the boat so while they were harrasing folks and delivering milk and standing around staring at buildings watching the MRAP's roll by they weren't doing much catching of anything. Once the lockdown was lifted a citizen spotted him something you seem to conveniently forget.
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