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Old 05-15-2013, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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yanno what, this is a deterrant...they are just doing this so people "thinnk" they are doing something? Will it stop drunken drivers, NO!!!!!

Does anyone know any cops and realize, how many times a drunken driver has been arrested and rearrested?

Again, nothing but stupid quick fixes that won't work....Honestly this government is so freakin stupid and corrupt, no caustic, it isn't even funny. 3 words
Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic, and
it also doesn't give any credit to society's intellectual abilities?
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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This is just getting stupid. There was nothing wrong with the old, common, .10 limit. Then a bunch of old busybodies got involved with MADD and whined until the federal government endorsed a limit of .08, and blackmailed the states (with threats of withholding their highway funds) to make it .08. Now the prohibition crowd wants to take it down even more. It's getting out of control. Lets face it, for many the real goal is simple prohibition, yet attacking things gradually achieves the same thing in a different manner.

I suspect that LE is supportive of this. It's another way to generate revenue and avoid actually fighting significant crime, like robbers, burglars, abusers, etc. Hey, lets make more law abiding people into criminals, there's more money in it!
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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This is just getting stupid. There was nothing wrong with the old, common, .10 limit. Then a bunch of old busybodies got involved with MADD and whined until the federal government endorsed a limit of .08, and blackmailed the states (with threats of withholding their highway funds) to make it .08. Now the prohibition crowd wants to take it down even more. It's getting out of control. Lets face it, for many the real goal is simple prohibition, yet attacking things gradually achieves the same thing in a different manner.

I suspect that LE is supportive of this. It's another way to generate revenue and avoid actually fighting significant crime, like robbers, burglars, abusers, etc. Hey, lets make more law abiding people into criminals, there's more money in it!
I know, I know, and agree with you, however, doesn't it frighten you that they actually think and believe this is going to make it better....? Quick fixes, do not do any good....and yes, prohibition, they want to tell other people how to live they're lives....freedoms are slowly leaking out the door....
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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There should not be any laws against drunk driving. You should only be charged IF you break a traffic law or cause a crash. If you make it home without doing any damage then no harm no foul.

For the most part I agree. Especially if you make it home without a problem. Unfortunately, I've seen instances where the person made it home to his driveway, and still got a DUI! Checkpoints should be abolished as they are unconstitutional!

This is just another revenue generator, and an attempt to further criminalize more Americans. As it is with it being .08, I won't drive if I've had more than 2 beers in a couple of hours. I don't need the aggravation, nor the legal troubles. It's cheaper to drink at home anyway. And when you have cool neighbors, it is more fun!
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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There should not be any laws against drunk driving. You should only be charged IF you break a traffic law or cause a crash. If you make it home without doing any damage then no harm no foul.
It would be horribly irresponsible to allow a drunk to drive until he has an accident, because they are accidents waiting to happen. We just had another drunk driver on I-95 NB going south, and he had a head-to-head collision with a minivan and he took out a family of four. Drunk drivers are a public safety issue, and need to be stopped by any means. I do not consider random DUI stops unreasonable, but very reasonable and therefore constitutional. I wish we had more of them.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:50 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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This is true. It's the same way here. You can be charged already for .5 if you are showing signs of intoxication. With that being the case this looks to me to be a case of trying to increase fines not make the roads safer.

It is indeed a money grab under the guise of being "for our own safety!" Furthermore, if the limit is .08 then there is NO reason to charge someone with a DUI if they blow under that! Like I said... if I drink, it's at home, or no more than 2 beers if I do have to drive.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:58 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Hi! We're from the government and we're here to help.
This is on the list of 1 of the 3 biggest lies!
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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It would be horribly irresponsible to allow a drunk to drive until he has an accident, because they are accidents waiting to happen. We just had another drunk driver on I-95 NB going south, and he had a head-to-head collision with a minivan and he took out a family of four. Drunk drivers are a public safety issue, and need to be stopped by any means. I do not consider random DUI stops unreasonable, but very reasonable and therefore constitutional. I wish we had more of them.
LOL. What you find reasonable and what is constitutional are two completely different things. The SCOTUS found that checkpoints DID meet the definition of "unreasonable search and seizure", but left it up to the states' in whether or not LEO's could perform road side checks.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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It would be horribly irresponsible to allow a drunk to drive until he has an accident, because they are accidents waiting to happen. We just had another drunk driver on I-95 NB going south, and he had a head-to-head collision with a minivan and he took out a family of four. Drunk drivers are a public safety issue, and need to be stopped by any means. I do not consider random DUI stops unreasonable, but very reasonable and therefore constitutional. I wish we had more of them.

He should be charged with reckless driving and driving the wrong way AFTER THE FACT. Charging people with a crime before the fact is not the way to go.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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I sure wouldn't want to own a restaurant or bar if this passes.
Soon you won't be able to drive if you had 1 sip.
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