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No, not a right. Many states have various laws banning people from even being allowed to marry specific people, other states have laws which apply differently to men, then to women, and they have different age limits. No, it's not a right to get state a endorsed marriage.
The equal protection clause is not a grab bag for all liberal agendas. If two black men are banned form marrying in a state, and two white men are also banned, then there is no equal protection issue.
There is discrimination, not based on RACE but on GENDER.
Gay marriage is fundamentally different from traditional marriage, the same laws governing gay marriage would be different, because in gay marriage their is no procreation possible between the gay couple. So many of the concerns, benefits and assumptions we make with traditional, male, female couples do not apply to gays.
Procreation isn't a requirement. We have been over this.
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No, not a right. Many states have various laws banning people from even being allowed to marry specific people, other states have laws which apply differently to men, then to women, and they have different age limits. No, it's not a right to get state a endorsed marriage.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.'
I am against Gay Marriage - and many more will be too, when they get past the fog in the MSM,
and see what gays are really asking for - IT IS ABOUT MONEY
(If not, then please explain why not - instead of attacking the sanctity of real marriage)
BTW, I am getting a rush of postive Reputational comments on this, but maybe those who agree are afraid to make their views public, for fear of appearing Political Incorrect...
MESSAGE to them: Get over it! (the desire to appear politically correct, that's for zombies and sheeple), let's come out against this expensive nonsense, before the country really is bust.
If I don't have to pay into the system, I won't ask to get anything out of it.
If gay people are paying taxes like anyone else, they deserve benefits like anyone else.
I don't see how you can make the argument that people who have been paying all along shouldn't get what they deserve because you somehow think they "don't deserve it." Fine. Don't ask them to pay into a system where heterosexual marriage benefits cost the taxpayers money.
There can be no doubt that restricting the freedom to marry solely because of racial classifications violates the central meaning of the Equal Protection Clause.
If we replace racial classifications with Sexual Orientation the same holds true...
There can be no doubt that restricting the freedom to marry solely because of sexual orientation violates the central meaning of the Equal Protection Clause.
If we replace racial classifications with Sexual Orientation the same holds true...
There can be no doubt that restricting the freedom to marry solely because of sexual orientation violates the central meaning of the Equal Protection Clause.
I would like to see any of those who say the benefits are about the children show some proof that those benefits are indeed about kids. And then explain why those who choose to not have kids, are sterile or are too old to have kids, are granted those very same benefits, not less, not more. And if they are about the kids, please also explain why gay parents are denied those benefits. Is it okay to punish those children of gay parents for their parents being gay? Or is it just pure greed on the part of many heterosexuals to assure themselves that they get money from the government and not us, that their kids get the advantage and ours lose out?
Most states have or are moving away from "common law" marriage recognition because its antiquated and outmoded
Au contraire, the "common law" is based on status. Since participants in FICA lose their common law standing to absolutely own, they cannot contract under the common law.
Do not believe me.
Please plan a day or two to go to your local county courthouse law library and look up old statutes (not the code) and see notation after notation that the statute listed is not to be construed to impair any rights under the common law.
What most Americans do not know is that they have been tricked out of their birthright.
Still not quite sure?
Here goes:
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
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So if you think that the "common law" is antiquated and outmoded, you've been [expletive deleted].
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Still not sure?
Check your title deed filed with the real estate clerk, and note that it states something like, "For one dollar in hand, and other valuable consideration.."(Or similar verbiage less the 21 dollars).
WHY would the learned real estate attorneys have you file such a false statement into the public record?
Perhaps it is to prevent owners from accessing the rules of the common law.
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Naw, best that you ignore this and go back to playing video games and watching MSM.
Moves to legalise gay marriage cleared a crucial parliamentary hurdle as it emerged that civil partnerships could be abolished as the price for getting David Cameron's plans on to the statute book.
Comments like this send my blood pressure skyrocketing. So going by your logic why should I as a taxpayer pay for straight couples who have no children? Why should gays (many that I know are well educated and have very good jobs), pay for the benefits of straight married people? Why? Explain!
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