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Old 05-22-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I know it scares the crap out of them. I know first hand. My neighbors across from me are lesbians, but prior to that one of the women was married to her second husband. They both supported and accepted my relationship with my partner. Just before Prop 8 passed, four months before, my neighbor called to say she was divorcing her husband of ten years for a woman that she fell in love with. Now her ex husband is anti gay marriage, where as before he was in support of it. I think many are afraid that their spouses will leave them for a same sex partner. As if banning same sex marriage would have stopped her from leaving him. No, she did not get the chance to marry her partner, divorce for the marriage to a man was not final.
Not only that, but they're threatened by the yin and yang of human sexuality.
"Nuh uh! Not me! I'm all yang, I'm all man! A gay had better not come on to me, or I'll clean his clock! I'm a REAL man, and don't you forget it!"

 
Old 05-22-2013, 10:50 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Not only that, but they're threatened by the yin and yang of human sexuality.
"Nuh uh! Not me! I'm all yang, I'm all man! A gay had better not come on to me, or I'll clean his clock! I'm a REAL man, and don't you forget it!"
So, just because a man comes onto them, they are going to take violence as a resort. How uncivilized of them. Should a woman then clock a man if he hit on her? Does not sound like they are too secure in their own sexuality if they have to hit a man just for making a pass at them. They should look at it as a compliment. I am not attracted to women, but if one makes a pass at me, I explain that I have a husband and only once did a woman say that that did not stop her. I was very flattered. Oddly, I am so straight acting and looking that I scare gay men, actually make them avoid me and on the other hand, for some odd reason, lesbians love me. Last year I did the AIDS LifeCycle 545 mile bike ride with 2004 other bicyclists and half of the participants were gay men and women. Not till day five when we all donned red dresses did any gay man even make a pass at me and then it was all day long. Even had a few ladies make passes at me that day. I am secure in my sexuality and none of it bothers me one bit.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Well, it's not folks like you and me who put cigarettes out in gay mens' ears and threaten to tie them to trees with duct tape.
You have to be really insecure in your sexuality to resort to that.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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If it is One Human + One Human, then:

Do you expect that bonding to get all the same rights as:
The traditional One Man + One Woman bonding which is often but not always intended to produce children?

Yes. I do expect One Human + One Human to get the exact same rights regardless of the sex of either Human. I don't get why that is so hard to comprehend.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Yes. I do expect One Human + One Human to get the exact same rights regardless of the sex of either Human. I don't get why that is so hard to comprehend.
He is so biased, that he thinks that only straight people have children biologically and ignores that many straight couples never have kids. What is really sad is that people like him claim that the benefits are for the kids, but they want those benefits only for their kids, not the kids of gay parents. To me that is the extreme of selfishness to think that you and yours are better and deserve better than others. But the benefits that come with civil marriage have zilch, nada, nothing to do with children. Having children has its own benefits that come with reproducing that are separate from that of the benefits of civil marriage.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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The answer is simple - you're talking about socialist benefits only available to those who signed up with FICA.

Do not believe me. Go contact any "Benefit" agency and tell them you have no SSN but want some of those great "Freebies" ... They will tell you to take a hike.

Better yet, go read the law about marriage.
I'm not going to waste much time on the mass of stupidity and ignorance you have unleashed on this thread, but I will just point out that if you think Black's Law Dictionary is an official statement of what the law is you know even less than I thought.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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Gay Marriage: it's about Your money going into Gay pockets

They want to get in in the gravy train of more state benefits, just when our country is nearly bankrupt.

The Brits have begun to notice...

Civil partnerships amendment 'could wreck' gay marriage Bill and cost taxpayer ...

The Independent - ‎1 hour ago‎

Moves to legalise gay marriage cleared a crucial parliamentary hurdle as it emerged that civil partnerships could be abolished as the price for getting David Cameron's plans on to the statute book.
This post is a good example of why the GOP will continue to loose the White House and Senate for the next decade and then you can kiss the House good bye after the next census.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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If it is One Human + One Human, then:

+ Do you expect that bonding to get all the same rights as:
The traditional One Man + One Woman bonding which is often but not always intended to produce children?
Absolutely. The fact that you don't think gay and lesbian bondings are as valid as straight bondings just reveals your inherent prejudice.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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Because the social services and safety nets provided by tax dollars, insurance policies and pensions were put in place to support spouses and their biological children. When you give an oddball abnormal mixed up loon legal power it disrupts the intention of those benefits. We may as well re write the entire Family and Probate legal professions.

sorry if you want in on the benefit pie you will have to make entry into the system through your biological children. Not by marrying your boyfriend and screwing his children out of what is rightfully thiers.



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Yes. I do expect One Human + One Human to get the exact same rights regardless of the sex of either Human. I don't get why that is so hard to comprehend.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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Because the social services and safety nets provided by tax dollars, insurance policies and pensions were put in place to support spouses and their biological children.
And ingore that these same tax dollars, insurance policies and pensions also support couples who adopt, have children through invitro and surrogacy.


so once again your argument falls flat on its prejudicial face.
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