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I am against Gay Marriage - and many more will be too, when they get past the fog in the MSM,
and see what gays are really asking for - IT IS ABOUT MONEY
(If not, then please explain why not - instead of attacking the sanctity of real marriage)
BTW, I am getting a rush of postive Reputational comments on this, but maybe those who agree are afraid to make their views public, for fear of appearing Political Incorrect...
MESSAGE to them: Get over it! (the desire to appear politically correct, that's for zombies and sheeple), let's come out against this expensive nonsense, before the country really is bust.
It's also about the intense desire to have their lifestyle choices accepted by, and endorsed by society.
It's also about the intense desire to have their lifestyle choices accepted by, and endorsed by society.
Actually, no it's not. They just don't want to be discriminated against by the federal government. If the fed never stuck its' nose in marriage then this would not be an issue. If the fed did not grant benefits and privileges based on marriage this would not be an issue. If the fed did not deny marital benefits to married homosexuals this would not be an issue.
If the fed wants to grant benefits then the fed cannot discriminate against people.
If they're heterosexual they can do so now. And probably do.
Did you know that a married couple who both worked and paid into SS get 3/4 of the monthly payments they would get as 2 singles? I know older couples who have decided to live together instead of marry due to this penalty. In a case like this (and with 2 earner couples being the majority these days they are the norm) there is a savings to SS for each married couple. You pointed out the so-called costs. Must have missed this savings.
The bottom line is, treating everyone the same is the right thing to do.
As long as we destroy the definition and function of marriage and replace it with a blank slate, then it becomes whatever anyone wants it to be. Which is exactly what gay marriage is doing.
It's also about the intense desire to have their lifestyle choices accepted by, and endorsed by society.
What lifestyle choice?
The choice to get married?
I SUPPOSE that's what straight folks are doing when they decide to get married.... but I'm not really seeing the issue?
Or are you going balls-to-the-wall into full on ignoramus mode by trumpeting the canard of "gay is a choice." If so, please do us a favor and read a damn book.
As long as we destroy the definition and function of marriage and replace it with a blank slate, then it becomes whatever anyone wants it to be. Which is exactly what gay marriage is doing.
Oh? How?
We now have over a decade of empirical data to draw from, in this country and elsewhere.
Show the work that leads you to the conclusion highlighted above.
If, however, "showing your work" involves drawing a picture of your rear-end (which is where I suspect you have obtained your argument), save it.
Actually, no it's not. They just don't want to be discriminated against by the federal government. If the fed never stuck its' nose in marriage then this would not be an issue. If the fed did not grant benefits and privileges based on marriage this would not be an issue. If the fed did not deny marital benefits to married homosexuals this would not be an issue.
If the fed wants to grant benefits then the fed cannot discriminate against people.
Marriage has always been a state issue, it was the gay marriage movement who have been trying to turn it in a federal issue, to get the federal courts to redefine marriage for the entire nation, just like was done with abortion.
Marriage has always been a state issue, it was the gay marriage movement who have been trying to turn it in a federal issue, to get the federal courts to redefine marriage for the entire nation, just like was done with abortion.
The Feds involved themselves in marriage by providing over 1000 benefits, protections, and considerations for a legal civil marriage. They further involved themselves with the passing of DOMA.
AND
Loving V Virginia was decided by the Feds.
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