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Old 05-22-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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"fiscal responsibility"? Where were the tea party people when Bush was turning a surplus into a record deficit? The village idiot lied to send this country into two wars, which cost American lives. Many died needlessly. At the same time, he had this country in an economic free fall, heading for another Great Depression. His Conservative policies put every domestic category in CRISIS mode. How dare you sit there acting as if the tea party somehow stands for superior ideas in this regard. My God man...get serious. The tea party is dead.

The tea party emerged because a group of insecure racists had the serious case of the runs from those sour grapes at the emergence of a black man as President of the United States. The charter of the tea party is Conservative, which is what cursed this country during the Bush years and continues to do so. Tea party and Conservative ideas were not going to fix the problems that Conservatives created during the Bush years or any other time. How ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

With Palin once its main representative, the tea party is as undesirable as the Klan...and don't you forget it.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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No, it does not. These thieves who stole the TEA Party name are irrational Ron Paul fanatics who are as dishonorable as Democrats when it comes to politics. They pretend to be Republicans or at least conservatives, and will say or do anything to win, legal or not. That is why they are "fanatics."
Why are Ron Paul supporters "irrational fanatics?" Because they want REAL liberty, and not some watered-down version of Statism like the GOP tries to pawn off as "conservatism?"

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That is because the Ron Paul fanatic is pretending to be a Republican.
He only "pretended" to be a Republican because the GOP works together with the Democrats to block Libertarian Party candidates (as well as all other 3rd-party candidates) from ballots all over the country. Ron is a libertarian through and through, but rejoined the GOP in order to get his message to the people.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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No, it does not. These thieves who stole the TEA Party name are irrational Ron Paul fanatics who are as dishonorable as Democrats when it comes to politics. They pretend to be Republicans or at least conservatives, and will say or do anything to win, legal or not. That is why they are "fanatics."
No, that is not correct. Ron Paul walked out of the Tea Party when it was stolen by the Repulican fringe in 2009. The TP was stolen FROM Ron Paul, so your claim makes no sense.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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2008 my ass. Nobody heard jack **** about the tea party in 2008. It wasn't until 2009 when that wacko on CNBC went on his tea party rant about a program obama was trying to establish to help low-income people with their mortgage. I didn't hear any rants about bailouts to banks, corporate welfare, nothing.
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There was no Tea Party during Bush or they would have been against his expansion of government, like the prescription drug plan. But Obama has exponentially expanded government and that is why the Tea Party became active.
Once again--WRONG!!!!




Who was President in 2007 again?
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Once again--WRONG!!!!


Who was President in 2007 again?
Exactly. This is what I have been trying to say, but it is like talking to a wall. The Tea Party existed well before 2009, and Ron Paul was one of the main founders AND it was created to oppose the out of control spending of the Bush admin. Paul was as strongly opposed to Bush's economic policy (spend, spend spend, borrow, borrow, borrow), and his approach to "fixing" the economic fiasco as he is with Obama's approach, but then again, Bush and Obama aproaches are identical, so it would be hypocritical to support one and oppose the other.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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"fiscal responsibility"? Where were the tea party people when Bush was turning a surplus into a record deficit?
Ron Paul's tea party for dollars - 2008 Presidential Campaign Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com

Daily Kos: Ron Paul Supporters Plan $10M Tea Party

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The village idiot lied to send this country into two wars, which cost American lives. Many died needlessly.
And how many wars has O-bomb-ya gotten us into? Libya, Somalia, Mali, Yemen, Pakistan, arming the Syrian "rebels"--he has murdered thousands of Yemenis, Pakistanis, and Afghanis (including hundreds of children) through drone bombs.

How many Americans have died in Afghanistan since O-bomb-ya took office?

Over 1500.

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At the same time, he had this country in an economic free fall, heading for another Great Depression. His Conservative policies put every domestic category in CRISIS mode.
Bush's policies weren't fiscally conservative in any way, shape, or form. They were a mixture of crony capitalism (aka fascism) and socialism. Fiscal conservatives don't bail out banks, airlines, pass huge unfunded entitlement programs (Medicare D), and put the feds in charge of schools (No Child Left Behind).

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The tea party emerged because a group of insecure racists had the serious case of the runs from those sour grapes at the emergence of a black man as President of the United States.
The Tea Party emerged in late 2007 as an extension of the 2008 Ron Paul Presidential run. It was opposed to Bush's wars, his bailouts, his attacks on civil liberties, and his enormous growth of the federal government.

Learn something for a change.

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Old 05-22-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Exactly. This is what I have been trying to say, but it is like talking to a wall. The Tea Party existed well before 2009, and Ron Paul was one of the main founders AND it was created to oppose the out of control spending of the Bush admin. Paul was as strongly opposed to Bush's economic policy (spend, spend spend, borrow, borrow, borrow), and his approach to "fixing" the economic fiasco as he is with Obama's approach, but then again, Bush and Obama aproaches are identical, so it would be hypocritical to support one and oppose the other.
Bingo. This is why I despise Republicans and so-called "conservatives" even more than Democrat so-called "liberals." They finally get the ONE candidate in their lifetimes who could actually change a lot of things, but they're too STUPID and brainwashed to know any better.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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Fiscal conservatism my ass. Tea party is nothing but angry white people who are pissed a black man is in office. Once hillary clinton wins, the tea party will crawl back in the hole they came from. Where were they during the bush years? How come nobody heard of them until obama came into office?
Wrong, wrong, wrong again. The reason my husband and I got involved in the Tea Party (pre-2008) is to fight against Hillary getting the nomination. At the time, we thought having her brand of big government, socialist ideology and complete ignorance about foreign policy would destroy this country. How is that being racist?

Sadly, we got something far worse....
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:57 AM
 
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It's flat out fear. Imagine, small groups of American citizens fed up with government and pushing back. Can't have us getting out of line. We were slandered by the press, the NAACP, Karl Rove and his good old boys who just want power back, and now it turns out the IRS.

All that push back over one tiny political movement that started to gain momentum.
I don't know it, ain't got a link, but I have the 'feeling' that this summer is going to get UGLY, and some of We the People are going to first say, Hell NO, and then push back hard.

Jefferson said that Liberty needed to be refreshed with blood, and so if some govt works and their sheep want to spend blood it's fine .....

The little messiah can bring back the dead cant he? Isn't that what messiah's do?
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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This is a great Libstinkers tactic.........pure Alinsky.....personally destroy your enemy.

The Libstinkers consider you an enemy if you don't buy into their sick ideology hook, line and STINKER
That's ok, about now I feel the same. The best they can do is pee on a bush, or maybe riot and burn their own neighborhood.
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