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Old 06-06-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'd be in jail, if that was my kid.

Man or woman, the bus driver would be the first to get a real good ass beating.
So your reaction is to beat people up? So basically you are like those idiot fathers that are sitting in prison cause they beat another man to death at their kid's soccer game over a stupid argument?
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I have no problem with that scenario. It should of ended when the Principal spoke to the child and got the whole story. He blew it but I don't think he should be fired, as long as he uses this situation as a learning experience.
Plus people need to remember our schools are still adjusting to handle situations like these and in reality there is no right answer, it is simply trial and error.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:08 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I'm laughing at the fact that people are so afraid of guns they cower from small children. When I pick up my kids I hear other kids talking about the *gasp* latest cool gun they play with on electronic games like COD.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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IIRC - We carried our cap guns to school so we could show them off and see who had the coolest toy. Our current bunch would have an absolute s**t hemorrhage if that ever happened.

I think this event was absolutely unjustified. The bus driver should have complemented the kid for his willingness to take responsibility for defending his friends. That is how heroes are made.

As I have said on other threads I believe everyone without a record for criminal violence or determined irresponsible insanity should carry a weapon wherever they have a right to be so long as they are responsible for any unjustifiable damaged done by the weapon.

Shooting someone by accident or negligence demands compensation. Shooting a criminal threatening someone is a duty that deserves praise.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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So your reaction is to beat people up? So basically you are like those idiot fathers that are sitting in prison cause they beat another man to death at their kid's soccer game over a stupid argument?
Going into leftist mode here:

BUT IT'S FOR the kids.......can you imagine the trama those children are now going to harness the rest of their lives for being asked quesitons when they were mearly making a remark about....
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Plus people need to remember our schools are still adjusting to handle situations like these and in reality there is no right answer, it is simply trial and error.
Not according to hte left.....banning weapons and hi-cap magazines will do hte trick, just ask di-fi....
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Going into leftist mode here:

BUT IT'S FOR the kids.......can you imagine the trama those children are now going to harness the rest of their lives for being asked quesitons when they were mearly making a remark about....
That is nothing more than a strawman statement. I have a friend that was investigated by the FBI because of a roleplaying game we were playing as teens cause it was similar to something a cult leader was doing in the area. It was definitely an experience, but not so much in the way of life long trauma.

Questioning the child over the remarks to see what he considered a "bad guy" to be is acceptable. Suspending him for 10 days, or even the lesser sentence of a day was over the top and needs to be dialed back.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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That is nothing more than a strawman statement. I have a friend that was investigated by the FBI because of a roleplaying game we were playing as teens cause it was similar to something a cult leader was doing in the area. It was definitely an experience, but not so much in the way of life long trauma. .
The kids were between the ages of 6-11, maybe....that is far different than a teenager, who has some type of mental capability...

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Questioning the child over the remarks to see what he considered a "bad guy" to be is acceptable. Suspending him for 10 days, or even the lesser sentence of a day was over the top and needs to be dialed back.
To a point, but the parents should have been there and not even an attempt to search the house...
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Plus people need to remember our schools are still adjusting to handle situations like these and in reality there is no right answer, it is simply trial and error.
What "adjustment" do they need?

They did something completely insane: Acting as though saying the word "gun" could kill or injure somebody.

Perhaps they need to "adjust" their minds back to the condition known as "sanity".

But if so, what condition were they in before the adjustment? And why or Earth were they EMPLOYED BY A SCHOOL while in that condition?

"there is no right answer"?

Are you trying to claim that suspending the kid for weeks, was no more "wrong" than simply ignoring his talk about defending his friends against murderers by using a gun, as the idle talk of a little kid with his friends?

Anyone who believes "there is no right answer" in this situation, is as deluded as the principal who suspended the kid.

The "right answer" in this situation, couldn't possibly be more obvious. And what the principal did, is just as obviously wrong.

I can see why leftists like that "There is no right answer" mantra, though. That whole notion, is what lets them present their obviously-demented, long-tried-and-debunked agenda of big-govt socialism, to sane people as though it actually merited consideration.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What "adjustment" do they need?

They did something completely insane: Acting as though saying the word "gun" could kill or injure somebody.

Perhaps they need to "adjust" their minds back to the condition known as "sanity".

But if so, what condition were they in before the adjustment? And why or Earth were they EMPLOYED BY A SCHOOL while in that condition?

"there is no right answer"?

Are you trying to claim that suspending the kid for weeks, was no more "wrong" than simply ignoring his talk about defending his friends against murderers by using a gun, as the idle talk of a little kid with his friends?

Anyone who believes "there is no right answer" in this situation, is as deluded as the principal who suspended the kid.

The "right answer" in this situation, couldn't possibly be more obvious. And what the principal did, is just as obviously wrong.

I can see why leftists like that "There is no right answer" mantra, though. That whole notion, is what lets them present their obviously-demented, long-tried-and-debunked agenda of big-govt socialism, to sane people as though it actually merited consideration.
Maybe, but maybe we could do with a society of no school shootings. I miss those days when something like that was unheard of.
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