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Old 06-14-2013, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Originally Posted by Arus View Post
assembling a Assault rifle, banned by the State of California for one. Buying the parts wasn't illegal. The act of assembling a rifle that is banned in California, was.

He also allegedly:
Killed his father and brother
Arson (set fire to his father's home)
Stole a car.
Killed four other people in his rampage.
and how did those laws stop him from doing this? it did not..same thing with all other gun laws....they disarm and harm law abiding people..
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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It took Cleveland police 135 rounds to kill two unarmed perps.... and they say WE are the ones needing disarmed in favor of the police staying armed.... yeah, right.



I have thousands of rounds of various calibers stocked in my home from buying over the last year and a half..... whats it mean???? Nothing.



So we should let family members of murder victims sit on the jury of the suspected killer? They would have plenty of "feelings" and "gut reactions"
all amazing points.
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Where would humans be without emotion. Maybe robots Harrier guesses.
Or bees.

Harrier's psychology professor tried to tell him that human beings "were" their emotions - and were the only sentient beings who could meaningfully communicate.

Harrier countered with an oral defense of bee dances that tell other bees where the pollen(and thus honey) is.

Harrier would have done the same with cats and their intelligence(which he holds in higher regard than most humans- even his own) - but he wanted to pass his psychology class - which Harrier did - several years a go.
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Or bees.

Harrier's psychology professor tried to tell him that human beings "were" their emotions - and were the only sentient beings who could meaningfully communicate.

Harrier countered with an oral defense of bee dances that tell other bees where the pollen(and thus honey) is.

Harrier would have done the same with cats and their intelligence(which he holds in higher regard than most humans- even his own) - but he wanted to pass his psychology class - which Harrier did - several years a go.
One would wonder what Harrier would have said about Dolphins,Whales etc? Man, sounds like Harriers professor has been cloistered away in a college way,way too long.
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: MS
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One of the last things I read about this shooting was the AR-15 was one that Zawahri built. The lower receiver was an 80% complete build when he got it. That means it doesn't function as a firearm, therefore not subject to firearm laws. When he altered the lower, legally he is supposed to submit paperwork and serial number--it officially becomes a firearm.
That is false. Ares Armor, an 80% lower seller based in CA, has a video on the rules. Legally Make your own Gun. 80 Percent Lower. - YouTube

Because he was denied during an earlier NICS background check, that made the DIY gun illegal for him to possess. As long as you are legal to own something, you can legally make it. There are guys that get their $200 ATF tax stamp and build their own suppressors rather than purchasing one.

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With the amount of time required to obtain and correctly mill and drill that lower, sounds like the guy was going to get a firearm regardless of any law or background check.
It's not that difficult or slow. Here's the step by step process. CNCGUNSMITHING - www.cncguns.com - AR15 80% Lower Receiver Tutorial
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Lawmakers should close bullet-buying loophole - latimes.com
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: MS
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He apparently circumvented California's ban on assault weapon purchases by acquiring parts and assembling his own. So that law needs to be tightened.
Do you want to outlaw drill presses, hammers, wrenches and mills?

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And his stockpile of 1,300 rounds of ammo is evidence that background checks are needed for bullet buyers.
That's a weekend training class. Most of us buy in bulk so we save on packing materials and shipping. We like to be green with our ammo purchases.

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But right now, De Leon asserted during the Senate debate, "You can walk out of San Quentin Prison … walk into a Big 5, any mom and pop, bait and tackle store, in fact you can back up a U-Haul truck, and you can load up all the ammunition you want. No questions asked."
Actually, you can't. Most stores limit you to 3 boxes if they have any in stock at all. Online stores will sell out of popular rounds within minutes.

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"You've heard that a ban on high-capacity magazines won't stop killers from killing," Hancock told colleagues. "But it will stop them from killing so many."
You just have to change mags more often. These guys are amateurs and they are not bad. AR15 mag change practice - YouTube

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SB 374 by Senate leader Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) would ban the sale of semiautomatic rifles that accept detachable magazines, a feature of assault weapons.
It's a feature of 99% of the semi-auto rifles sold in the last 80 years. Everything from a .22LR to a .50BMG has a detachable magazine.

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Californians can buy assault weapons from private sellers at gun shows in Reno and Las Vegas and tote them back across the border. They can also avoid criminal background checks that way.
Both parties would be committing felonies against 18 USC 922(a)(3) and (a)(5).

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"There's nothing that's an absolute solution," says Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck. "But if you put enough controls in place, that makes it less and less likely there will be gun violence."
If you put enough controls in place, there would be no more violence. There would be no freedom either.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Do you want to outlaw drill presses, hammers, wrenches and mills?

That's a weekend training class. Most of us buy in bulk so we save on packing materials and shipping. We like to be green with our ammo purchases.

Actually, you can't. Most stores limit you to 3 boxes if they have any in stock at all. Online stores will sell out of popular rounds within minutes.

You just have to change mags more often. These guys are amateurs and they are not bad. AR15 mag change practice - YouTube

It's a feature of 99% of the semi-auto rifles sold in the last 80 years. Everything from a .22LR to a .50BMG has a detachable magazine.

Both parties would be committing felonies against 18 USC 922(a)(3) and (a)(5).

If you put enough controls in place, there would be no more violence. There would be no freedom either.
Not true. Remember the two nutjobs that recently killed that soldier in England? Had that soldier been allowed to carry he'd most likely be alive and the nutjobs would be dead.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Not true. Remember the two nutjobs that recently killed that soldier in England? Had that soldier been allowed to carry he'd most likely be alive and the nutjobs would be dead.
How sadly naive.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:23 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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How sadly naive.
how so? I have to hear.
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