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Old 06-12-2013, 08:22 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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[quote=EmeraldCityWanderer;29985247]I don't see how it diminished him, please provide where it was stated this was done to diminish him, but to be president you need enough of the population to vote for you over the other guy. If he doesn't get the votes, he doesn't get the office. Is a lesson in elementary school civics needed here?

That's called reporting facts and reality. Reporting only the good news, and keeping the bad news from being reported, is biased propaganda. Are you really advocating that news entities should have selectively edited the news just to help Romney?[/quote]

You mean the way that they selectively edited the news to help Obama?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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There were posters on here, TV personalities, liberal coworkers all happy to point out Romney's poll numbers struggled with black voters = Romney is someway bad.
Really? Was it that Romney was bad, or Romney wasn't going to win?

Since it's your point, can you provide evidence that it was more of Romney bad versus Romney wasn't going to win?

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The fact that Obama's job performance struggles with so many groups - does that not equal something bad?
Well, that depends what the struggles are and why. Some people blame candidates for things that they had nothing to do with, not much you can do about that, but where there were struggles candidates worked to appeal to voters in that area. Both Romney and Obama, as well as every other candidate in the election cycle, tried to do that.

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You mean the way that they selectively edited the news to help Obama?
Firstly proof please, and hopefully their punishment.

Secondly if one person does something that's wrong, it doesn't give people the right to do it as well. Two wrongs don't make a right. If some one steals, or murders, or rapes then I am not allowed to do it as well.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:31 AM
 
Location: texas
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It's no surprise that Democrats have issues with the white vote.
The "white" vote is no different than any other vote or voter. Whites have the ability to join the Democratic...or any other party they wish. They can for go a party and vote as they wish.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Are you really advocating that news entities should have selectively edited the news just to help Romney?
Obviously you are naive enough not to realize that so called "news" selectively reported to promote Obama.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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It's no surprise that Democrats have issues with the white vote.
The percentage of the white vote is shrinking and the percentage of the minority vote is increasing. This doesn't sound like a problem for Democrats.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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How did polls showing Romney doing poorly with the black community "diminish" him?
Those types of polls are generally used to try to paint the candidate as "racist" or at the very least uncaring and out of touch with minorities.

Obama's popularity with blacks is nothing new, it's how he beat Hillary in 2008....with the irony being that white supporters of Hillary were called racists.

The current polls however have a bias because most blacks are democrats anyway. To the extent that black democrats have a higher approval of Obama than other democrats would be the portion attributable to racism. Most of it is just partisan support for a D same as the partisan support for R's.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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That's it, I'm voting for Romney.
Lol...me too.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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The percentage of the white vote is shrinking and the percentage of the minority vote is increasing. This doesn't sound like a problem for Democrats.
Depends which democrats. The relentless pursuit of the Hispanic vote has not been a good thing for unions or blacks IMO.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The percentage of the white vote is shrinking and the percentage of the minority vote is increasing. This doesn't sound like a problem for Democrats.
What a great strategy!!! "Let's not try to represent all Americans and become a better party, let's just wait for white people to die out so we get a larger share that way."

I cannot say I'm surprised though.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Turn around is fair play. If it is fair to point out that polls showed Romney doing poorly with blacks to diminish him...then it is fair to show polls showing Obama doing poorly with non-blacks to diminish him.


Why does Obama have just a 39% approval rating (well below George W Bush at the moment) among all non-blacks?

Why does this contrast so sharply with blacks that have Obama's disapproval ratings in the single digits?

Why does Obama have just a 37% approval rating (well below George W Bush at the moment) among Independents?

Why does Obama's approval numbers perform the worst among the middle class and have higher approval ratings with the poor and then the rich?


http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net...kingreport.pdf

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval
I've always said in order to accurately get a sense of how Obama is doing you have to subtract Blacks from the polls. Blacks cannot be remotely objective where Obama is concerned.
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