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I hear this from stupid men all the time, they blame the woman for getting pregnant. Well, men have zippers on their pants and they can always use a condom. The fetus is not a child. Are you going to be one of the people adopting the additional 50,000 more unwanted children that would occur with abortion being stopped? Do something about the children already born and unwanted before worrying about aborted fetuses.
You have no proof of any of this because none of it is true.
Just propaganda.
According to Planned Parenthood 39 women died in 1972 while having an abortion, the last year it was illegal. Since there are millions more abortions a year now than in 1972 we can be sure lots more than 39 perish each year.
Hey, you were right! Anyone can use Google!
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ABORTION FATALITY
In 2008, 12 women died as a result of complications from known legal induced abortion (CDC).
The number of deaths attributable to legal induced abortion was highest before the 1980s (CDC).
In 1972 (the year before abortion was federally legalized), a total of 24 women died from causes known to be associated with legal abortions, and 39 died as a result of known illegal abortions (CDC).
It appears that we can't be all that sure lots more than 39 perish each year after all. 12 is less than 39, or indeed 63. Trust me on this, I'm an engineer.
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How does making it legal make it any safer? A law can make an elective procedure safe? lols.
Use your imagination and a coat hanger, Captain Lol.
I'm sure you'd much rather have Congress push amnesty for criminals through instead. What's dumb is the lefts insistence on polarizing every single statement and making broad us vs them statements. Want to know why nothing gets done in Congress? Look in the mirror.
Instead of focusing on creating laws after conception, why not do something about preventing unwanted pregnancy beforehand, something both sides agree on and should be working towards.
Speaking of polarizing, proposing laws that increase unwanted births, and closing clinics that offer contraception might fit the definition. Justifying a proposal for a 20 week ban by stating that there are not that many pregnancies from rape is the best way to make sure you have no credibility.
There is a lot more to carrying a pregnancy than watching what you eat and drink....but as a man.....it is pretty obvious why you can't appreciate that.
Typical man: "Whaaaaa....I have the flu.....I need to go to bed and you have to wait on me hand and foot." I can just imagine a man enduring pregnancy and childbirth.....and declaring it is just an "inconvenience".
Let's pass a law....when a man's SO is pregnant....they have to give up football, beer and guns for nine months. Let the whining begin.............
Thanks for being sexist and using stereotypes. The fact is I am sure men aren't as weak as you say. I don't need hand and foot waiting, I just need alone time when I am sick unless it is something super-serious.
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Originally Posted by jjrose
In which states have liberals passed laws that allow for double murder/manslaughter charges, and what gestational age does the fetus need to be?
I am perfectly fine with double charges after the point of viability, but not before then. Just like I am fine with abortion for any reason before viability, and after only in the case of medical necessity.
So it's okay to terminate a pregnancy at 3 months but not at 8???
Same result.
Why the difference?
At eight months, the baby COULD survive (albeit at a higher risk rate) if they were born at eight months old. a 3 month old would not.
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Originally Posted by OhioRules
Well, if the kid or the mother is going to die during birth then abortion is the best option.
Don't think he/she was talking specifics though.
That is a different story and should be weighted in and made for possible exception rather than an across the board ban. I want abortions for rape, incest, and overall health of the mother. I don't want it to be used for birth control. There are cheaper options before and after that can be used that does not take up as much tax payer dollars.
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Originally Posted by Jerseyt719
A fetus isn't viable at 3 but is at 8. There's the difference. I'd rather it be legal than illegal and am not for caring for kids people didn't want. Yes there is birth control but nothing is fool proof. I'm not ignorant enough to believe that people will use abstinence as a rule either.
Agreed but we should cap it off at some point.
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