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Old 06-23-2013, 04:14 PM
 
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http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/23/bu...-two-countries

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On Andrea Tantaros radio show last week, conservative columnist and author Pat Buchanan warned of an unintended consequence of the immigration reform bill, a bill which doesn’t place a high priority on assimilation.

According to Tantaros, her previous guest, former New York Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey, said that the immigration legislation funnels money to so-called community organizing groups like La Raza with the idea of teaching immigrants “American history, the Constitution and civic participation.” That leaves open the possibility of activist groups teaching with a partisan slant — and impedes assimilation.

Buchanan, author of “Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?”explained that when different cultures are encouraged to assimilate, nations are susceptible to splitting apart, pointing to recent history as proof.
He went on to say:

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“You put 100 million Hispanic folks in the United States and, say, 70 million on the southwest border. That becomes as much as part of Mexico as it is the United States,” Buchanan continued. “If they have a different language, different culture, a different faith — basically you get two peoples. And two peoples eventually become two countries. This is what I see as the future of America — the Balkanization and the disintegration of a country which become one nation back around 1960 when all the immigrants who came from Eastern and Southern Europe, 1890-1920, had been assimilated and American-ized. We all had gone through the Depression together, heard radio together, went through World War II together and American television — that brought us all together. And now we’re coming apart.”
This will happen if mexican immigrants don't assimilate into american society. It's happened more times than can be counted through out history.

Assuming the amnesty bill is passed that is, but even without that I see the southwest transforming with or without amnesty.

So what can we do to avoid this and assimilate mexicans into american society?

 
Old 06-23-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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They won't assimilate -- especially with the family reunification that is being promised them. Most will simply add their US citizenship but keep their Mexican citizenship because they will see a huge advantage in being dual citizens.

This senate bill doesn't even require the amnestied to give up their current citizenship. They can keep their allegience to "la patria" but get US citizenship for all the benefits it provides them.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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Buchanan: Hispanic influx from immigration bill could break US into 'two countries' | The Daily Caller

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He went on to say:



This will happen if mexican immigrants don't assimilate into american society. It's happened more times than can be counted through out history.

Assuming the amnesty bill is passed that is, but even without that I see the southwest transforming with or without amnesty.

So what can we do to avoid this and assimilate mexicans into american society?
To start with we should call Washington & all our Senators and tell them Not to pass this stupid bill. The American people don't want a repeat of the 1986 amnesty. It will break the country's economy.

That also means calling every politician that's for this (including that scumbag John McCain) reform
bill to let them know this isn't what we want.

If Obozo gets this passed, the US will resemble England & it's immigration problems within 3 years.
Besides all that, how is any of this fair to the people that want to come here legally ?
 
Old 06-23-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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To start with we should call Washington & all our Senators and tell them Not to pass this stupid bill. The American people don't want a repeat of the 1986 amnesty. It will break the country's economy.

That also means calling every politician that's for this (including that scumbag John McCain) reform
bill to let them know this isn't what we want.

If Obozo gets this passed, the US will resemble England & it's immigration problems within 3 years.
Besides all that, how is any of this fair to the people that want to come here legally ?
Good idea -- especially not with the dual citizenship which guarantees the lawbreaking illegals will hang onto their own country's citizenship even after being amnestied and getting US citizenship.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5csB6QGw4U
 
Old 06-23-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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opinion vid by the young turks are at best not valid. the article nothing more then an opinion of actions not taken a what if nothing more. it does not alter what he is saying now and shammesty is true.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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opinion vid by the young turks are at best not valid. the article nothing more then an opinion of actions not taken a what if nothing more. it does not alter what he is saying now and shammesty is true.
In Pat Buchanan's own words, Hitler was misunderstood and war against him was uncalled for

The link is to Buchanan's own site


Did Hitler Want War?
 
Old 06-23-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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What different culture? What different faith? Most of them are Catholics, the largest religious group in the US. As for culture, geez, the Mexican culture is work, family, cars, possessions, Christmas, fast food, pizza. Honestly how can righties be so friggin' stupid? Mexicans are going to assimilate into US society with ease. We have already seen this in the border states. Will they leave their mark? Of course? Just like every immigrant group has. And we will be a better, richer, more interesting "culture" for it.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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In Pat Buchanan's own words, Hitler was misunderstood and war against him was uncalled for

The link is to Buchanan's own site


Did Hitler Want War?
I think you're trying to sidetrack the actual OP's post and point -- but I believe Buchanan was only pointing out that Stalin and Lenin did not exactly treat the Jewish people with a whole lot of kindness and yet we helped them win. That was the alternative to Germany -- and it was just as bad.

More information on who we helped win --- and how many American lives were lost giving Stalin and Lenin their big win and domination over so much of Europe and Asia?

How Stalin, the 'breaker of nations,' hated, murdered Jews - Washington Times
 
Old 06-23-2013, 06:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
In Pat Buchanan's own words, Hitler was misunderstood and war against him was uncalled for

The link is to Buchanan's own site


Did Hitler Want War?
What does that have to do with the OP?

Forget Pat Buchanan said it, I'm saying it now. Refute the notion that failure to assimilate mexicans will result in balkinization.
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