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...until he attacked GZ and attempted to kill him...
Quite the presumption. If someone is perplexed as to why someone is following them because they have not identified themselves, the instinct is to protect and defend yourself and it does not necessarily take killing them to put a stop to it. We will never know if TM was aware that GZ had a gun until GZ used it, but if he did, it would make the threat of someone who was following him, for no apparent reason AND carrying a gun that much more of a threat.
If that cant be established, and does anyone at all think it can, how can a responsible jury come up with a guilty verdict? If there is no way at all to know who started the physical altercation, how do we even have a trial? We have the fact that Zimmerman has injuries, Martin did not except a gun shot. Martin didnt get show and then inflict the injuries. Zimmerman did not injure himself. Nothing Zimmerman did up until whoever punched who was illegal. So at the point that we arent ever going to know who started what physically, he did nothing illegal. Again, it is appalling that this even went to trial, let alone is a murder trial.
People who are consistent in their positions would have to admit that Team Trayvon has spent the last year lying. So true believers can't afford to be consistent. The bar has to keep changing.
Up to and including I'm sure I read in a quote somewhere within the last few pages that Trayvon had no injuries to his hands. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch.
Looks like someone either can't read at all or maybe just doesn't understand how to read an autopsy report.
And you have no facts to say Martin was jumped. What we do have is Zimmerman with injuries. Again, this shouldve never went to trial. Zimmerman was injured, on his back, he defended himself. That is not murder.
It's homicide no matter how you slice it and I do see how it was instigated as GZ was irresponsible and negligent in how he utilized and abused his neighborhood watch status.
Why do you and others keep repeating this utter nonsense about there should not be a trial? Do you advocate for Talban type laws in the USA? The investigation, curcumstances and testimony left enough doubt to warrant a trial...period!
If that cant be established, and does anyone at all think it can, how can a responsible jury come up with a guilty verdict? If there is no way at all to know who started the physical altercation, how do we even have a trial? We have the fact that Zimmerman has injuries, Martin did not except a gun shot. Martin didnt get show and then inflict the injuries. Zimmerman did not injure himself. Nothing Zimmerman did up until whoever punched who was illegal. So at the point that we arent ever going to know who started what physically, he did nothing illegal. Again, it is appalling that this even went to trial, let alone is a murder trial.
It's homicide no matter how you slice it and I do see how it was instigated as GZ was irresponsible and negligent in how he utilized and abused his neighborhood watch status.
Its not against the law to follow someone. I, not being on a watch, can follow someone if I chose. It breaks no laws, no matter how you feel about it. Unless the State has evidence that Zimmerman was not getting beaten when he fired the shot, there is no murder case. At that point, he would be defending himself, which he has a right to. And I think its clear at this point, neither side can prove without a doubt who started the physical altercation.
Well you better hope that the State has some concrete evidence that they managed to keep secret because from everything we know, trial and otherwise, there is no concrete evidence to prove murder.
Just do like Zimmerman was advised to do - Go back to your truck.
Both witnesses, on the stand, testified that GZ could follow.
The Sanford police liaison gave training that stated it was proper and ok to follow from a safe distance.
The new HOA President was in the training class and admitted to the defense that they were in fact told it was okay to follow someone who appeared to be suspicious.
My experience, from many hours of watching The Cold Case Files, is that before an arrest is made the state likes to have enough evidence to believe they can obtain a conviction.
Did Chief Investigator Chris Serino testify yet? Last year I read several sources that reported he said Zimmerman's statements were questionable and asked the State Attorney to charge him with manslaughter. I'm not going to look through 10 million posts (give or take a million) but I'm quite sure his testimony will be very important.
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