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Old 06-24-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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PS: I did have a post deleted(by the mods) in another thread where I called both of them(GZ and TM) dolts.
I had a post deleted by the mod because as he/she stated "enough with the quotes." < ignore this quote please

 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Ok so lets bring up things that have no bearing on my question....

Using your logic, TM exhibited criminal behavior in the past, so why shouldnt we believe he wasnt looking to commit a crime while walking through the subdivision?


Sure you want to play the game that way?
Well because :
1. As far as any evidence is concerned he wasn't committing any crimes.
2. It isn't against the law to walk down the street.
3. It isn't abnormal to walk down the street.
4. He didn't initiate the events of the night.
From what is demonstrated He was simply walking home.
GZ on the other hand? Well he broke the rules of the neighborhood watch, went against the advice of the police, pursued a young man who as far as anyone knows was merely walking home. The man in his past has demonstrated anger issues. These issues would lend credence to the theory that GZ was more aggressive than he needed to be. It would also suggest that he wouldn't tolerate any back talk from an effing punk.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:04 PM
 
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I believe he deserved to die because he was actively beating on someone, putting the life and well being of another at risk.

We are all better off without having a self professed "gangsta" out amongst the people.

I dont believe his life was worth less than GZ's, I think they are both equally pathetic. That being said, given that GZ had noticeable injuries was evidence that he was assaulted, and the lack of any wounds other than the bullet hole in TM shows that TM inflicted injuries upon GZ, thereby making him deserving of that bullet.

Everyone likes to speculate on this case, and just plain make crap up. People cannot leave emotion out of it because they know that if they rely on the facts only, it smacks their opinion around because the facts show TM injured GZ and died as a result.

Just like he should have.

All speculation. You are making it up as you go to fit your narrative.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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I believe he deserved to die because he was actively beating on someone, putting the life and well being of another at risk.
That isn't true. Not even close.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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Well because :
1. As far as any evidence is concerned he wasn't committing any crimes.
2. It isn't against the law to walk down the street.
3. It isn't abnormal to walk down the street.
4. He didn't initiate the events of the night.
From what is demonstrated He was simply walking home.
GZ on the other hand? Well he broke the rules of the neighborhood watch, went against the advice of the police, pursued a young man who as far as anyone knows was merely walking home. The man in his past has demonstrated anger issues. These issues would lend credence to the theory that GZ was more aggressive than he needed to be. It would also suggest that he wouldn't tolerate any back talk from an effing punk.
It isnt against the law to follow someone down a public sidewalk.

Advice is not a law, nor is anyone required to adhere to it.

There is no proof GZ confronted TM, in fact he states the opposite happened and you have no evidence to prove that it didnt.

TM was found at school with a bag of jewelry which wasnt his, and was found to be in possession of burglary tools. Those issues would lend credence to the theory that he may have had a larcenous streak inside of him and wouldnt hesitate to commit a theft in that neighborhood if the opportunity presented itself. TM was a self admitted "gangsta" and wouldnt tolerate any jive talk from a wannabe cop.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by Mashed Potatoes View Post
I believe he deserved to die because he was actively beating on someone, putting the life and well being of another at risk.

We are all better off without having a self professed "gangsta" out amongst the people.

I dont believe his life was worth less than GZ's, I think they are both equally pathetic. That being said, given that GZ had noticeable injuries was evidence that he was assaulted, and the lack of any wounds other than the bullet hole in TM shows that TM inflicted injuries upon GZ, thereby making him deserving of that bullet.

Everyone likes to speculate on this case, and just plain make crap up. People cannot leave emotion out of it because they know that if they rely on the facts only, it smacks their opinion around because the facts show TM injured GZ and died as a result.

Just like he should have.

Judging from Zimmerman's injuries and your logic here, a playground fight would be justification for killing.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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That isn't true. Not even close.
Oh no? He never hit GZ?
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:09 PM
 
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Judging from Zimmerman's injuries and your logic here, a playground fight would be justification for killing.
Ever been in a fight?

Ah wait, just saw that you are a woman.

That explains a lot about your comments and lack of intellectual honesty or respect for facts. You are relying on emotion only.

Carry on sweetie, continued debate of facts with you would be an exercise in futility.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Oh no? He never hit GZ?
The only thing we know for sure, is that Zimmerman shot Trayvon point blank in the chest.

Zimmerman probably got the swollen nose from the kickback of the gun which was possibly within close proximity to his face when he fired it.

Gun Kickback Breaks Girls Nose
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:12 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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No one else was there that night. So far, none of the facts suggest murder, let alone first degree murder. If Trayvon wasnt white, and you couldnt call Zimmerman a "white" hispanic, would the media and liberals had even given a damn about this? Most of them wouldve have said much of anything about it.

Unless there is some bombshell evidence that the State has managed to keep secret so far, I hope he is found not guilty and can only imagine how the media/liberals are going to react.

It was more of the fact that he was able to kill someone and walk out of the police dept based on his word alone without a BAT/drug test or a real investigation that really pisses off alot of people. The fact that the young man was black and considering the history of black justice throughout the south just made it worst.
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