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She was making a record......making statements which were being taken down by the court reporter and will appear in the official record/transcript of this trial.....to be certain she is following the law regarding her questions to Zimmerman. It was not "bad form" at all. West gets his buttons pushed too easily by Nelson. The Judge is on a higher level in terms of what goes on in the courtroom than the attorneys for either side.
Zimmerman said he needed more time to decide whether or not he would testify, and the Court said she would give him more time.
Yeah, but it is still overt intimidation on her part. Showing her rush to get this circus done. Innocent till proven guilty, and the defendant should at least have as much time to present his case as the state took to present theirs, if not more.
There was a witness who testified that they did not see TM "throwing punches".....so there's a conflict in testimony. The jury will have to determine which witnesses were more credible.
Martin screaming for help in order to stop George from going for his gun is also consistent with Martin screaming for a considerable time. It's really absurd, IMO, to think that George would be in such fear for his life that he was screaming all that time for help and then was SUDDENLY able to stop screaming after firing the shot. Must have required a huge adrenaline rush to be screaming for help for that period of time, which would make it difficult to stop screaming so quickly after the gunshot. ALSO, Zimmerman himself claims he didn't know that Martin was dead, and that's why he "jumped on top of Martin" and spread his arms out. WHY, then, if he didn't know Martin was dead did he STOP screaming for help? It's not logical. It doesn't fit. It doesn't make sense for him to have stopped screaming, ESPECIALLY when he claimed he didn't know Martin was dead or seriously injured.
How much time were the two standing?
How much time were the two not standing?
What was the means of locomotion from the T to the death site?
Yeah, but it is still overt intimidation on her part. Showing her rush to get this circus done. Innocent till proven guilty, and the defendant should at least have as much time to present his case as the state took to present theirs, if not more.
Bad judge, shame, shame...
Agreed.
If there was even a smidge of a change of GZ testifying (and I don't think there ever was honestly) it's gone now after the way she barked at him from her perch.
Yeah, but it is still overt intimidation on her part. Showing her rush to get this circus done. Innocent till proven guilty, and the defendant should at least have as much time to present his case as the state took to present theirs, if not more.
Bad judge, shame, shame...
Defense said they were going to be done today (a fews days ago) so she asked him because she wanted him to answer and not his attorneys. I would think they had already discussed that. It wasn't a trick question.
There was a witness who testified that they did not see TM "throwing punches".....so there's a conflict in testimony. The jury will have to determine which witnesses were more credible.
Martin screaming for help in order to stop George from going for his gun is also consistent with Martin screaming for a considerable time. It's really absurd, IMO, to think that George would be in such fear for his life that he was screaming all that time for help and then was SUDDENLY able to stop screaming after firing the shot. Must have required a huge adrenaline rush to be screaming for help for that period of time, which would make it difficult to stop screaming so quickly after the gunshot. ALSO, Zimmerman himself claims he didn't know that Martin was dead, and that's why he "jumped on top of Martin" and spread his arms out. WHY, then, if he didn't know Martin was dead did he STOP screaming for help? It's not logical. It doesn't fit. It doesn't make sense for him to have stopped screaming, ESPECIALLY when he claimed he didn't know Martin was dead or seriously injured.
That's your opinion, fine. But really, why would Zimmerman continue to scream after the shot is fired? He was on his back being punched in face repeatedly. He struggles to fend off the blows; when he realizes he can't stop them he screams for help, while M continues to punch him in the head and on his fractured nose. As the assault continues and no help occurs he has to do whatever he can to stop the attack. That means drawing and firing his weapon. Now, once the shot occurs, he doesn't know if M is fatally struck. He does know the blows to his head have stopped, which is what instills the fear of death or severe harm. Once the blows stop, why would he continue screaming? He used a firearm to do what any concealed weapon holder would do, to stop the threat/attack.
One scenario only, no arguement. I think it fits the evidence and common sense much better than yours. As the witness just said, many things are possible, that doesn't make them plausable. Up to the jury to decide.
I do not even know why people still are centered aorund who was screaming; it does not matter who was screaming, not relevant at all. An attacker can scream, a defender can scream, an attacker can become a defender, a defender can become an attacker; none of this shows who initiated physical contact, which is the only relevant thing in this case.
That's your opinion, fine. But really, why would Zimmerman continue to scream after the shot is fired? He was on his back being punched in face repeatedly. He struggles to fend off the blows; when he realizes he can't stop them he screams for help, while M continues to punch him in the head and on his fractured nose. As the assault continues and no help occurs he has to do whatever he can to stop the attack. That means drawing and firing his weapon. Now, once the shot occurs, he doesn't know if M is fatally struck. He does know the blows to his head have stopped, which is what instills the fear of death or severe harm. Once the blows stop, why would he continue screaming? He used a firearm to do what any concealed weapon holder would do, to stop the threat/attack.
Do you not think he started trying to reaching for his weapon the moment he was on his back?
Isn't that what you would do if you had a concealed weapon?
Defense said they were going to be done today (a fews days ago) so she asked him because she wanted him to answer and not his attorneys. I would think they had already discussed that. It wasn't a trick question.
Ok....You can get up now...LOL Wittness...Anything is possible...hand, wrist, arm motion regarding 90 degree angle of shot to Trayvon's heart.
This witness continuing to say George is not confrontational type....Sure wish George's assualt records were in evidence.
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The jury will have to determine which witnesses were more credible.
