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B37 seemed very sympathetic with George, and even said based on a hypothetical question that she would be happy to have him do Neighborhood Watch in her neighborhood!
This is a misrepresentation. She did not say it willingly. As a matter of fact, she hesitated a good long while and then qualified the statement with other statements. Her first instinct, which is why she hesitated so long, was to say no. She did say she thought he'd learned his lesson.
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One thing that stood out to me. How can you say you thought Zimmerman did the right thing, but then say he was wrong for leaving his vehicle? Hmm...she seemed to be a bit bias and definitely have some preconceived ideas of what happened.
Where did she say what Zimmerman did was right? She NEVER said that. You are putting your thoughts into her mouth.
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Someone replied that they thought this juror sounded educated. That would not be my impression of this woman at all.
But, Oh God! This is the kind of myopic, biased mentality that puts innocent people in prison. She said she would never want to do this again. Well I hope she gets her wish, for the sake of justice being served, I hope she does.
But this juror has confirmed my intuition of what happened in deliberations - there were some who wanted to convict but were most likely influenced on the matter of manslaughter. I am sure that the right leaning mentalities in that room were the strongest and most active.
Explain, please, how shooting the man that is bashing your head into concrete repeatedly is not justifiable? Had GZ not shot TM, GZ would dead today and it would be Trayvon on trial - and CONVICTED.
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B37 said she felt that Trayvon got mad and attacked George. Nothing like Trayvon might have been scared. What about the fact that Trayvon ran? Seems like she didn't consider that.
Travon came back and assaulted George. Why would he return to do that if he was scared? Ridiculous. When someone is following you, you run away to a safe place. Once you have left the area, you don't come back and punch him in the face - unless you're itching for a fight.
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B37 said, "I think George Zimmerman is a man whose heart is in the right place, but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhood and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he should have done. His heart was in the right place, but it just went terribly wrong. ----I think he's guilty of not using good judgment. "
She said, "Circumstances caused George to believe that Trayvon might be a robber. There had been an unbelievable number of robberies in the neighborhood."
Did the number of burglaries in that neighborhood ever get reported in the trial?
She said Zimmerman was guilty of "trying to help people." I think that's what I just heard her say. Well, he sure didn't help Trayvon.
Travon didn't help himself by returning to the area, punching GZ in the face, and then bashing GZ's head into the concrete. At that point, GZ had no choice but to defend himself.
All the events leading up the shooting are irrelevant on the charge of murder/manslaughter. At that point, under the law, nothing matter except GZ feared for his life.
Or, would you have GZ in jail for 30 years because he followed Travon and got out of his vehicle. Really? You really believe following someone and getting out of your vehicle is worthy of what is essentially a life sentence?
just heard that woman on CNN. What an ignoramus. Typical Florida. She would want Zimmerman to be on her neighborhood watch???? Doesn't mind him getting his gun back? What a stupid stupid woman.
Or, would you have GZ in jail for 30 years because he followed Travon and got out of his vehicle. Really? You really believe following someone and getting out of your vehicle is worthy of what is essentially a life sentence?
No, only if that someone doesn't take the three opportunities he had to identify himself to the person he's suspicious of, and then shoots them when the person freaks out.
No, only if that someone doesn't take the three opportunities he had to identify himself to the person he's suspicious of, and then shoots them when the person freaks out.
So, better GZ should continue to let TM "freak out" and continue to bash his head into the concrete until he is dead? OK. Because that is what would have happened. We would have then had a dead GZ and an alive TM and another even more sensational trial to inflame both sides.
B37 said she felt that Trayvon got mad and attacked George. Nothing like Trayvon might have been scared. What about the fact that Trayvon ran? Seems like she didn't consider that.
I think people---the jury included---who are buying into the theory that Trayvon "got mad" are doing so because if they admit that Trayvon could have been scared then they'd be forced to admit that maybe he ALSO was standing his ground and defensing himself just like George. I have been followed at night before and it's damn scary and if George reached out to grab him to hold him until the police got there, then I can see why Martin would punch him.
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It was in one of his statements or the reenactment.
Remember the discussion here with people claiming there were no ground floor windows in those apartments, then providing links to apartments for sale that Showed ground floor windows.
Oh, yeah, I definitely remember that, lol. Even after I posted pictures and real estate descriptions, there were some still insisting there were no ground floor windows. And even after witnesses testified to 'looking out their windows'..................no windows!!!!
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